Lori asks about bute and natural support for inflammation after an accident

Hi Dr. Dan, While trail riding last Saturday my sisters horse slipped and fell on his side with her on him going down a hill. He seems to be favoring his back leg when he walks. Seems to be stiff in the hip. I suggested to give him some bute for inflamation & pain. Her vet said to give him nothing cause bute is hard on his kidneys. Do you agree he should get nothing for his pain? Is there a natural pain killer & inflamation reducer that won't hurt the kidneys? What are your thoughts?

Thank you, Lori

Hi Lori, I avoid bute if at all possible. I would consider having checked, but otherwise I would first give arnica montana… it's a homeopathic remedy found at healthfood stores etc. Our "Critical Care" Laminitis formula is ideal for fighting inflammatory issues- pricey but nothing like it- Generally only a tub is needed followed by Joint Check for the longer term as needed I "cant tell u these help pain" but I would certainly consider starting there. If it continues/worsens of course the best choice is to have checked.

Thank you Lori. Keep me posted.


http://www.thenaturalvet.net/CRITICAL-CARE-FounderLaminitis_c_10.html

Margaret with questions about her horses’ challenges…

My 2 horses and mini-hinny were trimmed by a barefoot trimmer too often and too much from 2009-2010.

My 9 year old Paso Fino was walking on his soles and when the vet x-rayed him in October last year (2010) he saw chronic laminitis in the RF (7 deg. rotation), LF and LH (6 deg. rotation) due to the over-trimming.  

A year later my hinny and Paso are having severe bouts of lameness.  The new farrier works with the vet but trimming now causes lameness and none of my horses have ever had shoes or will.  I lime my pastures every year (no fertilizing);pasture plant analysis good;

September fecals were clean on all 3 animals; natural dentist came in September.

I Feed:  less than 1/2 cup of M______ P______ Sp_____, P____-T____ Equine F.A./Plus granules which has 6,000 mg of flaxseed oil, Vitamins A, E, Choline, 30 mg of zinc and 30 mcg Selenium, and Med-_____'s D-______ B_____.  Everyone has had free-choice Red-Cal since August 30. PLEASE HELP US FROM THE INSIDE OUT.  The Paso has multiple sarcoids on his sheath which the vet prescribed XX-Terra for.  PLEASE HELP WITH THIS, TOO.

Thank you.

Margaret

Hi Margaret,

Thanks for making the move to RED CAL- that is the single-most important
step to make in regards to my programs and supplements.

Just to start, I would like to see you consider going all in with the
feeding program ("What To Feed"link below if not seen yet).

I would be in hopes that with the combination of components of
the program along with the targeted Hoof Check supplement and
the Hoof Check Conditioner dressing would make an improvement.

You will not need these supplements you mention. You can stop them with the above.

We do have a "Critical Care" Laminitis formula that is pricey and wonderful,
but I would rather you start with the foundation and the targeted products to
see what level the improvement is.

In addition, for the sarcoids I would use our Grape Balm product topically…
"icky and stinky" but nothing like it!

Again, great on the RED CAL and consider the above. I appreciate you
asking and considering all Margaret. Keep me posted!

Dr. Dan

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Michele asks my opinion/help about laminitis

What do I feed a horse with laminitis?

Michele

Hello Michele,

If you haven't done so yet, among my many links and pages- please visit FeedForSuccess.com / WhatToFeedYourHorse.com and see my recommended program and supplements that make up this feeding foundation to build upon.

I also have an a "Laminitis" article in my magalog you can see at www.DrDanMag.com. Now [regardless] on what/how you want to feed- our RED CAL product is one that no horse should be without— provided free-choice all they want all the time— NO salt/mineral rocks/blocks. You'll see more about this on the "What To Feed Your Horse" link.

So, if you decide not to go all-in with the feeding program, please- RED CAL should be provided free-choice 24/7 all they want all the time! For added support I would also supplement with our Joint Check product- which besides the "joint" ingredients the horse will get a great antioxidant product as well to help get and keep the junk out of the system to help with the challenges by laminitis/stringhalt.

Here is a recent post you may take something from:
http://askdrdan.com/?p=810

Now, I also have a product called Critical Care "Laminitis Formula" that is pricey but nothing else like it, especially consider if the horse is in lots of pain.

Lastly, I always suggest that one consider contacting a chiropractor.

And again, for best "possible" results— the total feeding program has helped many others.

Please do review the "magazine" articles… especially the Laminitis artice along with Perfect pastures and the Salt/Mineral article. Easy access using magazine link below.

(follow the DrDanMag.com link and you can either view the PDF file of the magazine or
the "flash- page flipping" version. In the mag it is on page 23. Lots of great articles before and after that one too!)

Hope this helps and thanks for asking!

Dr. Dan

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Kay asks about horse’s stringhalt / laminitis

Dear Dr. Moore….

I recently acquired a horse that  apparently was buterd up for the sale, and now has (almost symptoms of laminitis, which the farrier is going to correct with pads and shoes…he ahs also showed signs of mild Stringhalt.  I know that the laminitis can be controlled by diet, and am wondering which products of yours would help him?  He is a 16H big heavily muscled horse…..I  also think I have read reports of some cases of Stringhalt that responded to diet, and I believe that natural remedies would help….which of your products would you reccomend?  He also was given a 5-way vaccination just before loading into the trailer for a 24 hour trip….

thank you so much  
Kay T.

Hello Kay.

I know that you'll get this horse on the right track.

First if not done so yet, please visit FeedForSuccess.com (a.k.a WhatToFeedYourHorse.com !) and see my recommended program and supplements that make up this foundation to build upon. I also have an a laminitis article in my magalog you can see at www.DrDanMag.com gives you a couple of viewing options and it is info you will enjoy. Now depending on what/how you want to feed- our RED CAL product is one that no horse should be without— provided free-choice all they want all the time— NO salt/mineral rocks/blocks. You'll see more about this on the "What To Feed Your Horse" link.

Now for added support I would also supplement with our Joint Check product- which besides the "joint" ingredients the horse will get a great antioxidant product as well to help get and keep the junk out of the system to help with the challenges by laminitis/stringhalt.

Here is a recent post you may take something from:
http://askdrdan.com/?p=810

Now, I also have a product called Critical Care "Laminitis Formula" that is pricey but nothing else like it, especially consider if the horse is in lots of pain.

Lastly, I always suggest that one consider contacting a chiropractor for such.

Do keep me posted Kay and thanks for asking and considering our products.

Dr. Dan

Karin updates us on Paint Mare “Bo”, comments on our feeding program asks about fertilizing/grazing…

Dear Dr. Dan,

I wrote to you a month or so ago and was switching my mare who has laminitis, arthritis and who had EPM also a few years ago….Well, at the time, she was pretty lame and I had her on a processed feed. You told me that she could have oats. She had been looking quite thin this winter and is now looking better with the oats/ Just Add Oats / Joint Check / Red Cal diet. I give her a lb of oats a day. Anyway, you asked me to keep in touch, as I was not convinced that I could switch her onto the Joint Check without digestive upset.

Well, it went really well, and her lameness improved after about 2 weeks….I have her in soft-ride booties, but I am just about ready to start weaning her out of them, as she is doing so well. I am very pleased, and I think in the long run, it may be less expensive than the processed feeds and certainly easier to handle.

I do have a question for you about grazing, as she is on pasture. It is divided into small lots, so I can monitor how much she gets. I like for my horses to live like horses, and so they pretty much have 10 acres to roam around on. Do you think that the grazing will be an issue for her, and how should I handle that since she has laminitis? Also, is it okay to fertilize?

I will be sure to check out "Perfect Pastures". Thanks again for your advise….. Karin M.

Thanks for the great update and comments Karin, So happy things are better!

Do not fertilize.. only use lime. I would just be cautious and gradually introduce to the grass. Start out with 15-30 minutes or so a day and work back up to full turn out (hopefully the later) ,

Thanks for asking!

 

Perfect pastures Article- PDF


Suspensary Ligaments?

(I have a ) 25 year old gated mare diagnosed with this. Left front leg only. Any info on this helpful. Shes very uncomfotable. Is bute my only option? 
Thanks, Nancy

I would consider our Critical Care Laminitis formula…
it has really helped many with all kinds of inflammatory conditions including susupensory… it is pricey BUT there is nothing like it anywhere.

Also do see the article on feeding (page 26 of the magazine)  and the audio titled  “What To Feed Your Horse” (homepage and library section of the website and linked at right of this page). Generally one tub of the Critical Care is  sufficient and then switch them over to the Joint Check (see page 34 of the magazine). It has tremendous ingredients to help detox and also anti-inflammatory benefits as well. In fact, everything that is in Health Check is already in Joint Check. You will see by the article/audio etc. that I really prefer oats over commercial feeds too. Commercial feeds are full of hydrogenated fats plus alot of other ingredients as fillers etc. . Horses need fats but good fats and not processed. Part of our Diet suggestions include our Weight Check Oil which is the best source of fats we have been able to find. FREE CHOICE Salt (our RED CAL and in your case I suggest our Hi Mag version RED CAL), mineral and vitamins are critical. With commercial feed if they are not getting exactly what the bag says for their weight, THEN THEY ARE EITHER GETTING TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE of those vitamins and minerals that were added to that commercial feed. Hence, I suggest whatever amount of oats the horse needs, typically the same volume of commercial feed now getting,  and adding the proper supplements to them at each feeding. This assures they get what they need. (Just Add Oats 2x and the Weight Check Oil)
 
Thanks for asking. hang in there… generally suspensory sounds so hopeless, with long and drawn out recovery but honestly we have had great success and of course correcting the diet will help prevent in the future as well.