I own a 24 yr old appaloosa, retired barrel, pole, western games, team
penner … his forte was barrels and poles & he was raced until 19.
He's still very active – 2 or 3 hr trail rides at least 4 times a week
– lots of hills and some ring work (not barrels – western pleasure
He has been on oats for 4 months (grown by the farmer where I board) -
with the only supplements being a small amount of sentinel senior
pelleted feed and a handful of beet pellets- (beet pellets are dinner
only) and msm and a carrot. (he doesn't get much hay as he is never
at the round bale … hence the handful of beet pellets in his
dinner.) He's on pasture the rest of the time. Only stalled to eat,
then turned right back out.
He's a very easy keeper so his meals are mostly oats, and not that
much. Total feed would be about a pound and a half per day. I have
to ride him regularly in the summer to keep the weight off. But he's
in great shape. Oddly, since his diet switched to oats from sweet
feed, his mane has grown back. Not sure if that's a coincidence.
Since it's difficult to keep his weight down, I started lowering the
sentinel (12% fat) and adding enriched 32 instead (more protein, much
less fat – for easy keepers. This has only been for 2 weeks now).
Should I discontinue the enriched 32 ? (like I said, he's still very
active and still loves the barrels, although I don't let him gallop
around them anymore. He will still gallop at the drop of a hat,
though. And stop on a dime). For an active, healthy, easy keeping
senior, should I just get the oats supplement (just for oats) and the
natural salt? (The beet pellets were just because he wasn't eating
hay hardly at all – he had hay only before his breakfast and dinner as
this is given to the horses in their stalls).
This is what I get from reading your articles – He already gets oats,
so should I just add the Just for Oats supplements and get the natural
salt? Oh, and because the farmer mixes some corn oil in the oats to
keep down the dust, maybe I should use a different oil (olive oil?)
Any suggestions here for corn oil substitutions?
Thanks so much,
I suggest that the components of our feeding program FeedForSuccess.com (You're alreay there with the oats!!!)
would be all that is needed. The feeding program is time-tested and time-proven.
You need to have the fatty acids / good fats (our Weight Check Oil is the oil you need and can be adjusted according to "weight" needs or un-needs), this, combined with what man KNOWS the horse needs, which is provided via our "Just Add Oats" supplement and then the "gaps" are filled by our (nature's) Red Cal (pristine,natural salt/minerals). Again this is my time-proven feeding program and is referenced in my article, "Feed Oats… But That's Not All" that is linked to from FeedForSuccess.com the page of our website. As you will see I'm not a fan of anything pelleted/cooked.
The program will meet all your needs and I appreciate you asking and considering Kelly.
Keep me posted.
Thanks, Dr. Dan.
I received your email.
Another question about the oats. They are grown on the farm and fed to the cows and horses.
There is a small amount of corn in the oats (also grown here). The oats are not processed or cooked in any way, but they are ground up a bit for ease of chewing.
The grinding of the oats produces a little dust, so for the horses, a little corn oil is mixed thru the oats (not very much but enough to keep down the dust).
I don't like the corn oil so I mix Rusty's oats with a little extra virgin olive oil. It doesn't take much, but of course this is a little more expensive.
Now the oats, with a little bit of corn and the olive oil – does this take care of the fat? I know olive oil has the 'good' monosaturated fat that is also good for horses. (theres only 5% or less of corn- also grown on this farm).
Also, I always throw a handful of beet pulp pellets (about a quarter of a cup) into each dinner. I did originally because he wasn't getting hay where I used to keep him. This farm has plenty of good quality hay/alfalfa/timothy – 2nd and 3rd cut for much of the season.
But I just read that the phosphorus/calcium ratio is a little lower in calcium in the oats – and that beet pellets are high in calcium (and of course, fiber).
Now since his oats has a little corn and olive oil, as well as the beet pellets, and I always give him a big fresh carrot from farms in erie with his dinner), would the 'Just for oats' be redundant?
He's been doing great on this mixture – even his mane and tail are fuller since he started on this mix.
The only supplements I've given him are joint supplements and msm. I wonder, since he's an appaloosa and his eye seems to be a little cloudy at times (moon blindness – hence the farm fresh carrots) – are there any supplements that are high in vitamin A and good for the eyes, that won't throw off the balance of nutrients he's getting now?
Other than that, he may just need the red cal salt (not sure about mineral blocks) …?
Your oats sound fine. The program to a "T" is the foundation and covers all you have mentioned. These products and supplements are based on my years of experience and has benefited thousands through the years and continues to do so including hundreds I'm personally connected to, including my own herd.
The program and the components will naturally balance everything. My Weight Check Oil is "weigh" better than anything else— yes and it is added to the oats but much more benefits than just keeping the dust down. Yes, as you see on the site in several places NO Rocks/Blocks.. only nature's Red Cal…. you asked about Vitamin A… well that's covered by the Just Add oats supplement and component of FeedForSuccess.com (all the info is there— clicking on products will give you label view- a must to review)
If you want to look at other conversations about challenges like the moon blindness you mentioned… enter serach term for such on AskDrDan.com and return results like these:
Again thanks for asking and considering. Hope the above helps further.