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Karin with feeding questions for her 7 year old gelding
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(I) have a question… In a nutshell…
Was given a horse a year and a half ago, 7 years, gelding, ssh, not broke until earlier that year, been pasture ornament all that time.
When I got him, he was overweight (a little) and had rubbed his mane and tail out.
He started dropping weight, not really getting skinny, but lost his top line. He was ridden enough not to do this, had chiropractor out (several times) he had a sore back. I kept his rubbing under control by adding apple cider vinegar to his feed, and washing his mane and tail a lot with anti fungal shampoo.
This fall, he tied up on me. might have been my own fault, since I had added some molasses to his feed because he didn't eat his alfalfa cubes.
His weight is ok now, but still has a weak top line and butt muscles.
I have detoxed him (Hilton herbs and a homeopathic detox from the Netherlands). He is on a high fat, high fiber, low (controlled) starch feed and 2 cups of flax a day.
Something isn't right with this horse. He gets sore after exercise, when we go on a long ride, he doesn't eat well. He is a great horse.
I think he has ppsm, or pssm, not sure about the difference, but I cant afford to spend the money to do a muscle biopsy. My vet didn't really recommend this anyway.
Any suggestions?
Karin
Yep. Get him off all commercial feed. Even the low-starch, high-fat are full of junk, especially even hydrogenated fats which are a big part of such issues. His body is trying to "discharge" something still or the tail and main rubbing would likely not be an issue. Stop the anti fungal stuff only suppresses the problem and makes worse.
Stop the flax! Not fit for man or beast in my opinion..see the article in our library section why.
Finally, follow the feeding advise at www.whattofeedyourhorse.com to the "T". For added detox support in addition to the above add our Health Check supplement/product. Expect a better horse as if anything will help the above will as it has for hundreds of such. The top line may or may not improve but I would be surprised if the all else doesn't
Thanks for asking Karin!
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answering Nancy with questions for her 11 year old fresian/mustang mare…
Hello Dr. Dan,
I have a 11 year old fresian/mustang mare that has allergies demonstrated by generalized itchy skin. She also has stiff muscles, especially in the hind end, on a daily basis.
Needless to say, she seems uncomfortable, and is irritable a great part of the time. She is ridden lightly 4-5- days a week and has a large (1/2) acre) paddock to roam in.
She has been worked up for EMS and PSSM. (Both negative). She is fed mainly burmuda and 1 flake of orchard daily. I have given her "Safe Choice" as a supplement, 1 quart daily.I have also given her Coco Soya oil when I remember. She has both a plain salt block and a mineral block in her stall, neither one she will touch.
What supplements would you recommend for her?
Also, she is on atarax 500 mg twice daily for her itching with partial relief.
Nancy H.
Nancy I would stop the atarax. Throw away the blocks. Get rid of the commercial feed all together and follow the advise at www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com to the "T".
For added support I would add the Joint Check sure. U my not even need the Aller Check but wouldn't hesitate to add if the itching isn't greatly improved in a few months.
There is an article on allergies and a video in the library section of our website— just go to www.DrDanLibrary.com. Expect improvement overall. Nothing is 100 percent but If anything will help nutritionally the above will and has for hundreds and hundreds.
Thanks for asking!
Connie asks about horse showing signs of IR/Cushings
Dr. Dan… I recently discovered that my horse is showing signs of IR/Cushings.
I've gotten on the web and see so much conflicting information. I ordered your RedCal + Magnesium but wanted to know how much oats do you feed a IR/Cushing's horse? I'm reading that they should be pulled off grain but you're saying feed oats? She's on burmuda grass and getting ready for coastal hay to come in (low sugar type.
Your thoughts?
Connie C.
Please consider follow the advise at www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com to the "T". That would mean gradually switching to the same volume of oats that you are now feeding of grain. To the oats, add our Just Add Oats supplement and Weight Check oil. Continue the Red Cal (hi-mag version). If your horse has a cresty neck and really overweight, then add the Critical Care I/R formula. The later is pricey but there is nothing like it and fortunately only a tub or two is generally needed to take the crest away.
Oh yea, I really don't like bermuda or coastal hay. I don't care what anyone says ..orchard grass or timothy are better. And don't worry about the sugar in hay. Its not that big a deal.
Enjoy your new horse and thanks for asking!
Dr. Dan
Cary asks about our magnesium, feeding and more…
What is the magnesium form that you use in your Red Cal and Red Cal + magnesium? I have found that most supplements contain a very cheep form of Mg. (Mg. Oxide) which is virtually useless since the horse is not able to break it down for the magnesium.
With this in mind which supplements (Red Cal etc.?)would you suggest for race horses that have a problem tying up –which I think is related to dehydration and mineral imbalance, what are your thoughts and your recommendations?
Thanks,
Cary
That would be true on most minerals but NOT magnesium. The oxide is very usable and bioavailable and no other type could possibly get enough in a horse- period. The Red Cal form also contains it in a very natural form containing all that was in the pristine sea bed from which it comes from.
I would highly suggest our feeding program at www.FeedingForSuccess.com. For any horse especially those that are IR. If they have a cresty neck I would also suggest our critical care hypothyroid IR formula. Thanks for asking.
Patricia- My 15 yr. TWH mare has low thyroid…
My 15 yr TWH mare has low thyroid, .9. She is on pasture 24/7. What can you recommend besides Levothyrox L every day which is what our Vet has recommended?
She has also had a bout with Anemia this past Spring but is within normal range now with Hemax and Red Cell. She will be on the Red Cell thru January as per the Vet.
Thank you, Pat
Hello Pat and thanks for asking…
I would highly suggest our feeding program at FeedForSuccess.com along with our Critical Care Overweight formula (that one is pricey but really supports the sugar levels). Commercial feed with all the bad fats are part of the cause.
Got to get them off and they can’t get what they need from just hay. Most horses are not iron deficient (like the product you mention primarily provides). You will not need this with our feeding program nor would I suggest. I have seen hundreds benefit from the above. Without drugs and actually able to come off even once on.
I am sure you know that such meds actually "shut down" the thyroid.
Personally I would rather support it with the right nutrients and get rid of the bad. Also see the article on fat in the magazine as well on the article on laminitis. Check Library also. It all applies.
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testimonial from Nickie and her Mustang with “head shaker syndrome”.
Hi Dr. Dan,
I just wanted to say thank-you. I found your magazine through Cap Star for head shaker syndrom.
My 9 yr old BLM mustang has always had head shaker problems since I owned her (8 plus yrs.) and she has a 3 yr. old colt that doesn’t have head shakers classic syptoms but he never has been right in my opinion- nervous, not trusting,doesn’t crib but would rub his teeth on feed trough, chew wood, pace with hind feet while eating, and just not happy.
Well when the lady from Cap Star sent me your magazine and I watched your videos, I bought some red cal, bug check, H20 oil, and just add oats, I got him off pelleted hay, and on oats plus his grass hay.
He really went for the red cal, had a white nose everyday for awhile. But what a difference in his personality, no more pacing while eating, no more rubbing teeth, and although he has always been loving he is now trusting also ( if that makes sense).
Pooor guy sorry it’s taken me so long to find out what he needed. But now I can see a future in him and will start riding him soon. By the way with Cap Star and your products his mom is losing her shaker problems, and is doing great also, she has always been awsome but lacking some energy under saddle, well she has good energy now, and no head shaker problems(so far).
Thank You so much, and God Bless You.
Nickie D.
WOW, I don’t know what to say…
I’m humbled by your words.
Thanks for taking the time to share Nickie.
I appreciate your support.
Marsha asked about high mineral content of the water and Red Cal…
My question is how does high mineral content of the water affect the feeding of your product Red-Cal?
Our water for the horses has tested out high in Calcium 68mg/L, sodium 30.6mg/L, and iron .40mg/L. Hardness as CaCO3 is 251mg/L, pH is 7.24. In the past, a test on the urine of one of the horses showed as much as 50% calcium carbonate sediment, with a very high pH value. The horses are generally fed grass hay, occasional alfalfa and plain whole oats.
When checking supplement or bag feed ingredients, many have calcium carbonate as one of the first ingredients.
Would you have a hair mineral analysis on horses such as mine? Would hard water alone, be a cause of excess calcium? I have not had my hay tested, but have considered doing so. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Marsha Novicki
Hair mineral analysis is not suggested.
I used to do them but they were unreliable because even though you made a balanced custom mix as a result 6 months later u generally have something else still off balance.
Anyway, I would suggest the Hi Mag Red Cal of ours (this should help because they can balance their own needs)and also our Just Add Oats. We have hard water here too and ours get the above and never have we or thousands of others had any issues regardless of water. I would also suggest our Weight Check oil.
So bottom line… our www.FeedForSuccess.com is still suggested with the Hi Mag version of Red Cal.
Thanks for asking!
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Kathy with her “rain rot” questions…
I have read several "how to" articles on rain rot, got advise from the manager of the barn where she is boarded, and found other "natural" cures. I need to know what you, as a vet recommend.
She is a 2 yr old mustang who is on full pasture board with a run-in shed and 2 other mares. There is plenty of dry area(over two acres), but they tend to huddle in the shed, which is dry, but the area just outside and the area by the gate is frequently very muddy. Her coat is already thick. I live in central NJ.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Oh, I can’t get there every day as I teach and coach.
I am there at least 3 times a week, usually 4.
Kathy
Rain Rot is an immune system isse with the body trying to "discharge" something through the skin as well. the ungus is NOT the issue so treating topically is not the answer. supporting the immune system, helping the body discharge the "whatever" and not putting more "junk" back in are the answers. this also applies to thrush, white line disease, etc etc.
My advise is to discontinue all commercial feed (source of mush of the junk), vaccinate as little as possible and also use chemicals as little as possible …. all sources of such. to help support the liver and discharge I suggest our Health Check. To help support the immune system our Aller Check is awesome. also see our suggested feeding program . The article in the magazine and the audio on the what to feed your horse website will explain. this we call our feeding for success program.
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Topically… our Grape Balm ointment will not interfere with the body’s "discharge" but will help with any other skin issues.
Thanks for asking,
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