Jeanna asks about detox effects of our REDOXX

Jeanna T

Message:
I have been taking the Redoxx for about a week. does a body go through
detox and about how long does it take.

Hi Jeanna,

Everyone is different as far as what "shows', but regardless it is working on the inside. Generally it will not have any type of harsh detoxing/cleansing effect as the main ingredient the Montmorillonite Clay will attract the toxins (esp. heavy metal) and they will bind and be carried out of the system helping to support a cleaner liver and more. There are other ingredients that help to remove the toxins from the body and being an "anti" oxidant— removing the oxidative stress that rusts our bodies so to speak. I will include link below back to webpage if you don't have brochure in hand to review. If not already, consider the "mega-dosing" aspect of the instructions upon initial usage also.

I am also attaching a brief Clay The Miracle Of Life Article (Read: Clay, The Miracle Of Life.) I think you will enjoy. (it is also on website).

http://www.thenaturalvet.net/REDOXX_c_53.html

Hope all this helps for you to realize even more just what a great product you have your hands on and I appreciate that you have made it part of your daily regimen.

Dr. Dan

Zsuzsu asks about Beet Pulp (and lets me “weigh-in”) !

From:
Zsuzsu

Message:
Hello – Can you please point me towards studies that have been done
that show beet pulp to be unhealthy for horses?

Thank you!

Hi Zsuzsu,

Here is the one I recommend that you review:
http://askdrdan.com/2010/01/29/beet-pulp-article-for-reference/

In looking at other times "beet pulp" has been mentioned:
http://askdrdan.com/page/2/?s=beet+pulp&submit=Search

You will see that it is my opinion to avoid. In fact it's essentially fiber and potential sugar issues. Hay is a cheaper source of fiber and no likely potential for sugar issues… also the "bulk" and hydrophilic nature of beets could potentially (and in my opinion based on what i have seen over the years) just "suck" nutrients right out of the gut as the bulk passes. And then finally- it's a root and roots accumulate pesticides… just something to consider.

Thanks for asking!


Extra note about this subject:
Regardless of what other's opinions are, ultimately what I shared above as well it would still be that it is my opinion to avoid more or less based on what I have seen, worked with and experienced first hand over the years that "trumps" anything else.  I have presided over thousands of "turnarounds" through the years—- some after one mere alteration… beet pulp was no longer provided and I don't believe it was coincidental.  Sure many others chose to provide it and continue to do so and you may very well chose to be a fan as well. I'm not and will not.

My suggestion is if you don't provide it now, you can always give it a try and see if it's "worth it"… if providing and not happy with something going on- then give it up for awhile and see if you notice any difference. If providing now and all seems to be well, well…

I do appreciate all that ask me about this and letting me "weigh" in. :-)

 

 

 

a Red Cal (and more) “conversation” with Jane

From:
Jane

Message:
Hi Dr. Dan,

I purchased 5 – 25 pounds of Red Cal for my two Arab mares about two
months ago.  I removed all salt and mineral blocks form their paddock
at that time and put about 2 inches of Red Cal in a bucket inside
their stalls.

The youngest mare licked it for a very sort time (2 seconds) and back
away.  The older mare will not lick it.  They have 24 hour access to
this.
I put some in the palm of my hand to get them to try it.  Again the
younger mare took a small taste and back away…the older mare
wouldn't try it.  I put about one Tablespoon full of Red Cal in with
their oats and Just Add Oats (off to one side but next to the
oats)….neither horse would eat the Red Cal  (they love the Just Add
Oats).

I have the same 2 inches of Red Cal still in the bucket after two
months time.

At present they don't get any salt or minerals (that aren't in Just
Add Oats).

Both horses use to lick the white…sodium choride block and
red…mineral block quite a bit.

Do you have any advise for me about how to get these girls to start
eatting their Red Cal?  We live in Texas and have a very hot summer
coming soon so I would think they need this.

Thank you,
Jane

Hi Jane.

Removing the blocks was the right thing and is one of only 2 reasons why they never eat- the other being too much potassium being available for some reason from surroundings… the "Mineral Wise, Salt Poor" article mentions this. Perfect Pastures is also a good read. Articles are linked via the Red Cal page at:
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/RED-CAL_c_3.html

With that said though, I've got to say that adding a tablespoon pretty much works everytime that I know of. So, do this for me- just add a "pinch" and gradually in crease… maybe a pinch for 3 days that a little more and so on until tablespoon. If it stops somewhere along the way of this gradual increase— go back to a smaller amount and wait a little loinger before the next gradual increase.

This always works with any of our supplements- though usually not needed with Red Cal.

Keep me posted! Thanks so much for your support and patience with this.

Dr. Dan

Hi Dr. Dan
 
I wanted to update you on my two Arab mares not wanting to eat the Red Cal. 
And, I do have a few more questions I am concerned about.
 
First of all, I have read the two articles you suggested …at present I don't know if excessive potassium is causing a problem with them not wanting the Red Cal.  The coastal and rye hay I have been feeding the horses is fertilized…this could be a problem.  We don't fertilize our paddocks,  just goat, sheep droppings and composted horse manure are left on.  (The articles were very helpful, educational and interesting by the way)
 
My girls at this time, are happily eating the (1 Tbs/day) Red Cal in with their oats, oil check, bug check and just add oats.
However, they are also now licking dirt to the extent that they leave small dished-out places on the ground.

 

 

 

I am concerned about a few things.

   
1st…by them licking dirt makes me think they need more Red Cal….but, I don't know how much they should be getting to be balanced on a daily basis when feeding it with their oats?  They still have free choice access to Red Cal in a bucket but, don't touch it.
    
2nd/3rd…we live in Texas so we do have selenium in our soil…. Two concerns I have with this are….. that the Red Cal contains selenium ….even though they may need more salts…will they be getting to much selenium which I have read can become toxic if to much is taken in?…..and the youngest mare (5 yr old) is and easy keeper who loves to eat constantly and has just gotten over her 1st case of laminitus (trying to not have another event of that).    Her body score on a scale of 10 was about a 8-9 last year…now about 6-7, due to diet and exercise changes.  Should the younger mare be getting more magnesium? 
 
It's difficult to know if I am giving them the balance they need.
 
A comment on the Bug Check and Finally Something That Works…it took about six weeks before I felt that these were making a difference.  I see neighbors horses and cows having a lot of trouble this year with flies but ours are only having to swat their tails once in a while.  Last year before using these my horses had a lot of bites.  This year so far I am not finding hardly any bumps from insect bites.  I feel real good about using these two products.
 
Thank you for your help,

Jane

Hi Jane.

Thanks for the updates and for sharing about Bug Check. Sounds like you're using Bug Check year-round and that's a good thing and will help in results like you are seeing— as you know it's more than "just" a bug product and only healthy to provide year-round and keep in the system. Thanks again for sharing!

I'm glad you liked the articles. I just added a short audio to the Red Cal page of the website that you can listen to also when you have a few minutes. You could maybe provide an extra tablespoon a day but I would much more than that really and of course make sure they have plenty of water. Maybe there's still remnants of the old block around or even leached into the soil- just something else to consider. Just be sure to keep RED CAL available free-choice along with what you are top dressing– so they can eat the extra when they need it.

Rest assured that the selenium used in our products is organic and is not the same as what can cause harm. Ours- they can't get too much of.

Also, I would consider the Hi-Mag version of the Red Cal for the challenge you mentioned the next time you order.

Hope this helps.

Here's the direct link to the RED CAL page for the audio (will start automatically) Thanks Jane!

http://www.thenaturalvet.net/RED-CAL_c_3.html


Dr Dan  :)
 
I am relieved to know I don't have to be concerned about the amount of selenium.  The correct amount would be very difficult to determine.   I will increase their Red Cal as you suggested…will keep hoping they will eventually help themselves to it free choice.

Thank you for your cautioning me to provide ample water, and yes :) I am mindful about their water. 

The young mare does drink more than the older girl (but not excessive)…I monitor the amount of water that they drink every day and have clean fresh water for them daily…this and taking notice of their urine and stools helps me to be alerted if something is off with either of them.  I like to give water in the morning (twice the amount of water they will drink in a day) and check the level in the afternoon and evening.
 
I believe your products are making positive changes in my horses.  :)

The 5 yr old mare has never before been able to grow out her mane more than half of what her sire and damns is.  It would break off at a particular length about one half that of her parents.  I am seeing her mane getting longer now.  Also her damns mane is darker with more color (she chestnut in color).

The 5 year old also use to have strange ruffed-up looking places of hair on her thighs…this is not typical of a pure breed Arabian who should have short, soft, smooth hair.  My Vet didn't have an explanation for this.  Well, they are gone now!….she had these for her whole life.  My guess is that the condition could have been a mild allergic reaction..like hives..making the hair stick out.  She is also more energetic but at the same time both girls are calmer.  Sure some of the more emotional collection is due to me playing with them everyday but, it is more than that.  I believe getting them off of pelleted feeds, about three months ago, and using Just Add Oats, Oil Check and Bug Check have made the difference.  Now that they are on Red Cal daily I'm looking forward to continued signs of health.

Noticed my neighbors cows just 20 feet from my horses, pestered by flys and my girls only had a few on them  (5 or 6 each)…and some of the flys behaved as if they couldn't find a place to land…meaning to me that they are being repelled.  Finally Something That Works truly does.

Well, I just had to say all that.
I will keep all your suggestion in mind and Thank you ever so much…I feel I am finally on the right track in helping to give my girls a happy, healthy life.

Warmest Regards………Jane

Thank You Again Jane!

Dr. Dan



 

 





 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sheri asks about supplements “for me”…

From:
Sheri

Message:
Hi,

I will be 50 this August.  I consider my self a "young" 49, but a
few things are happening:  on a thermography and eye reading it came
up that I'm very healthy "except" for my lymph nodes which come out
bright orange in the pictures. . .I've gone on a cleanse for 2 weeks. I
still have my period, but am experiencing mood swings and
forgetfullness.  I do have joint discomfort and get cramping in my
left middle toe that is unbearable even though I pretend it's o.k.  I
do not have normal bowel movements, never had and no products seem to
work. . .natural or otherwise.  They usually do the opposite, I'm
starting to overload on water to see if it helps.

I eat healthy, meaning hardly any sweets or white flour.  I'm not
overweight, but could stand to tighten up and loose a few which my
husband and I are doing now by cutting out night time treats.  I'm not
a big caffine aholic and I walk the treadmill, lift weights and ride
dressage.

I'm lookiing to be the healthiest that I can be and would like to
know the best combo of your products to try.  I'm thinking the redox
and enhance.

Can you please suggest. . .

Sheri

Hello Sheri.

Thanks for asking and considering our products. I am going to touch on each choice and include the direct links so you can read more about the product and its ingredients.

I think you're initial thoughts of the Redoxx and Enhance Factor are on target. I would suggest the Hi-Mag version for more support with your "discomforts"

Along with those 2 products I would choose between 2 of our special packs that
both feature a free bottle of the Cleanse Factor that can gently help you to be more regular.

With either of the packs- I would also add our "Comfort Caps" product, as it has ingredients that can help with "discomfort" both physically and mentally— both challenges you mentioned.

Now back to the difference between the 2 packs… the Four-Life pack also includes VitaVegEssentials a vitamin/mineral formula that also includes amounts of "vegetables" and other beneficial ingredients like Chlorophyll, Choline and Lysozme. I would consider this as you say you are not extremely overweight and are active (you didn't mention any lack of energy) and are eating right. The combination of all the above besides helping with the other challenges you mentioned might just be enough to help support your weightloss goals while also helping you to thrive beyond the challenges you are facing.

But, if more support seems to be needed for weight management you could use the "Classic Wellness" pack that includes the PLUS ADVANTAGE "muti-beneficial" product in lieu of the VitaVegEssentials. You of course could also add the PLUS to the first mentioned regimen, but only if you feel it is needed.

I am going to include direct links below to what I mentioned above. I hope the above info helps in your decision for a regimen to at least start and then work with to find the right combination of "giving your body what it needs to take care of itself". I do feel that my products can help with this and again I appreciate you asking and considering them. Keep me posted!

Dr. Dan

http://www.thenaturalvet.net/Special-Packs_c_56.html

http://www.thenaturalvet.net/Comfort-Caps_c_45.html
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/REDOXX-Hi-Mag_c_57.html
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/Enhance-Factor_c_62.html
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/Vita-VegEssentials_c_55.html
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/PLUS-Advantage_c_52.html
http://www.thenaturalvet.net/Cleanse-Factor-_c_43.html

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This audio features not only a discussion on a variety of subjects along with some questions from the audience, but will also help you get to know me and  hear a little of my personal story if you are not already familiar.

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Lizbeth asks a feeding question for her Andulusian

I have a 7 year old Andulusian I imported from Spain in April who does dressage. He had been on oats in Spain so I continued with crimped oats here- and lots of hay and over the summer added weight check oil (2 oz. 2 times a day)and have recently added Just Add Oats as well. Before he was on crimped oats but now is on regular oats.

He also has a Himalayan salt lick always in his stall which I replace regularly as he seems to use it a lot. Over the summer he was in turnout with grass- though lost weight which is why I added the oil. Then he was fine. I've just moved barns and his turnout does not have grass and he has lost weight again despite the increased oil. He gets 2 quarts of oats a day.

Any suggestions on anything different I should do.

Hello Lizbeth,


The very first thing I'm going to ask you to consider is getting rid of that salt lick
and start providing RED CAL free-choice 24/7/365 as best you can in this environment.
It is OK to add a tablespoon to what you're feeding each day if necessary, but provided free-choice they
will eat what they need on their own.

Of the 3 components of my feeding "program"… RED CAL is the single most important product
and the one I always want folks to consider if they won't consider anything else. I've got a salt block
video and much much more- including a Salt Mineral article at the "What to Feed" link below if you would
review this if not done so already.

I would like to see what this small move would accomplish as it has for so many through the years.

For the immediate— I would provide more Hay and more oil. But again- the intended results
are all going to better achieved if allowed to work in unison as part of the program and switching
to RED CAL would be a major step and when able the "Just Add Oats supplement.

Please keep me posted and I'm glad you asked now when you did.

Thanks,

Dr. Dan

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

No need to be “corn-fused” about feeding your horse… (for success)

a recent email:

 

Just the other day a couple of things happened that while at first thought, seemed to be completely different but as I reflected the next few days they reminded of such much more.

Corn Maze

First there was the story about the family that had to call 911 when they were lost in a corn maze and thought they couldn't find their way out!

If you missed that story and if interested, click here.

Then, as I usually do I received some questions that day via the Ask Dr. Dan form here. Questions that I have addressed before through the years online and at events, but at this time on the heels of the corn-maze story those questions made me think about what many go through trying to find their way through the maze of information and mis-information that you can be overloaded with as you search for the answers for your horses.

At least weekly (if not almost daily) I validate my stance that oats are good for your horses, beet pulp is bad, flax is not recommended, molasses is not needed, don't spray with listerine (yea,I know!), get rid of the blocks and rocks…. I could go on.

You're receiving this email just as my many other emails so you pretty much know my stance on such subjects. If not, you can review the AskDrDan.com blog, DrDanLibrary.com, WormCheck.com DrDanMag.com and especially WhatToFeedYourHorse.com for the consistent information I have shared for years.

Our "Feed For Success" program is as simple as 1-2-3, but the results are much more profound!

From Nickie D…

Well when the lady sent me your magazine and I watched your videos, I bought some Red Cal, the (Weight Check) Oil, and (the)Just Add Oats, (along with Bug Check) I got him off pelleted feed, and on oats plus his grass and hay.

He really went for the Red Cal, had a white nose everyday for awhile. But what a difference in his personality, no more pacing while eating, no more rubbing teeth, and although he has always been loving he is now trusting also ( if that makes sense).

Poor guy, sorry it’s taken me so long to find out what he needed. But now I can see a future in him and will start riding him soon.

Thank You so much, and God Bless You.

Let me emphasize again today, that the "Feed For Success" program has helped so many through the years with challenges and to be proactive against having to ever face many challenges. When adhering to this simple concept and foundation then our highly-beneficial standalone targeted support products are even much more effective when needed.

Click Here To Ask Questions is your 911 connection!

I just want to also let you know that at anytime you feel you too, are lost in a maze of sorts when searching for answers for providing the best for your horses, or even your cats, dogs and yourselves… know that I enjoy the opportunity to connect through every question and answer conversation we have- so please don't ever stop. I'm honored to be considered a source of 911 help to and for so many.

I appreciate your support and hope this upcoming week is great for you all.

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Answering Carolyn… (keep them in your thoughts and prayers)

I have an 18.3, 14 year old Holstiener mare that is very hard to keep weight on. I have finally gotten her weight up to 1321, but to do that she gets 6 pounds of Triple Crown senior plus alfalfa pellets and rice bran. I hate that I have to feed her so much grain, and she does very little work, we ride once or twice a week out on trails for maybe an hour.         I have had her for 2 years now and she came to me as a rescue. her body score was about a 2-3. I agreed to take her site unseen as she was the last of a brood mare herd of 10 the was put down because they were no longer useful. The first time I saw her it was truly sickening. Both her back legs were so swollen from hock to hoof that there was no definition to her legs, she was skinny and her coat was rough and dry.       Once getting her home and having the vet come out to se if we could even save her we started on a 2 year journey of trying to save her. She has lymphingitis as well as chronic scratches. Nothing I have tryed really gets rid of the scratches. I live in Va and even with 2 foot of snow on the ground I was still treating them on a daily basis. And after the last bout of lymphigist her one hock stays some what swollen at all times, even with cold hoseing and iceing, and plotices with wraping. She' not lame on it , she just gets stiff with the swelling.    I have truely spent a tonn of money on trying to get all of her issues under control, but what seems to help one issue makes another one worse.      I am not a non-profit rescue, every animal I take in and help comes solely out of my own pocket, with no breaks. I love what I do. I am just at my wits end, both emotionally and financially for what to do to help the wonderful, sweet mare.     Please contact me with what you think might help her. Thank you ahead of time from both of us.    

Sincerely,
Carolyn F.

Hello Carloyn,

I so appreciate what you do and am humbled that you
would seek my opinion and consider our products.

I know you are in a tough spot in so many ways.

Know that I don't just consider ourselves as just a
"product" company looking to make sales, but while
it has been my mission to provide alternative albeit
natural solutions I want to try to educate to help
with the all important (sometimes tough) decisions
that have to be made.

With that being said, if you haven't done so yet
please at the least review the "What To Feed" link below.
I know you're busy and may not have had the time yet.

You're going to soon see that I prefer Oats
along with hay or grass. (I like timothy/orchard)
and you're going to see some things I have
"no use" for… commercial feed, flax/rice bran
anything pelleted (pellets are cooked),
and salt/mineral rocks/blocks.

You will see the 3 supplement components to
the program of oats/grass/hay of which I think
will help in so many ways with these challenges
like it has so many before you.

I hope you would for sure consider the
RED CAL "natural" salt/mineral source—
balanced by nature- not by man! No matter the feed-
RED CAL should be provided free-choice
all-they-want all-the-time because they
will eat what they need- they know!

Then my Weight Check Oil is "weigh better" than
any other source of omega/essentail fatty acids.
What you're attempting to provide with the flex and rice bran
will be better provided and safer coming from Weight Check Oil.
I could just about say that thousands of gallons are poured daily!
There's nothing like it in my opinion.

For this situation- I would provide extra amount
(up to 8 oz. daily in the beginning is possible) to help
support more and gain control more quickly.

Weight Check Oil is going to help with the weight issues and
help support the skin and coat.

Oh and here is a link to a "not to feed flax" article.
http://askdrdan.com/2010/06/23/flaxseed-flax-seed-article-im-often-asked-for/

The third component is the supplement called
"Just Add Oats" – it is a multi use product loaded
with vitamins, minerals and probiotic ingredients.

The above has worked for so many through they years
for those same different types of challenges you guys are facing.

Now I do have other support products that you could also add,
but for now i;d like to see you try the above.

I do hope the best for you all (and will keep you in our thoughts and prayers) and I again appreciate you asking.
I hope something here I shared at least gives hope.

Please stay in touch!

Dr. Dan

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

Janet asks about EMS cresty neck horse and our “Critical Care” formula

I am supplementing my EMS horse with ____________.  

Listened to Dr. Dan speech on cresty neck horses.  Found Critical Care product and ingredients.  $275 for 2 month supply!! Expensive. _________________ has all ingredients of Critical Care and about $100 less for 2 mo. supply.  What makes Critical Care so expensive and why is it better than ________________?  Dr. Dan. says CC will get rid of cresty neck.  Is this realistic?  Glycocemic EQ hasn't gotten rid of cresty neck . . . why would CC?  Weight reduction has reduced cresty neck. Janet

Hi Janet. I sure do appreciate you taking the time to listen to one of my audios and considering our products.

I am not familiar with that product and I don't do comparisons anyhow. Sorry but I am only concerned with making sure what is in our products are there and they are of the best quality. (and providing value) There are plenty of knockoffs out there– I [usually] see them when they suddenly spring up. Again this one you mention I haven't..

(I guess one could always try to compare a multi-vitamen bought at the Dollar Store to one bought at a health store (or us))

I just know that our Critical Care is awesome and yes it is
pricey (I even say so in so many places) — pricey yet valuable.

When combined with our overall feeding program ( WhatToFeedYourHorse.com )
(using the Hi-Mag version of RED CAL in this instance) generally only a tub or two
of the CC is needed. CC + Feed For Success is the optimum combination.

This combination has helped so many through the years.

Here is a testimonial that was posted that may be of interest:
http://askdrdan.com/2008/08/16/a-testimonial/

Again, I appreciate you considering our products for your current challenge
and hope this other info is of help. Do keep me posted Janet.

Thanks for asking!

Dr. Dan

Sometimes I Don’t Have The Answers…

I'll let the picture, story and video below speak for themselves…

Navy Seal is honored by family and friends as his dog "Hawkeye" guards his master one last time…

Family, friends, fellow military remember Navy SEAL Jon Tumilson on Friday, August 19th, 2011.

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Farewell Hornby Island Bald Eagles 2011



Live footage compiled from this season's live webcam at:

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1st egg: 3/22
2nd egg: 3/26
1st hatch: 4/28
2nd hatch: 5/1
1st fledge: 7/23 (Alexandra)
2nd fledge: 8/01 (David)
 

Veronica asks/says: “Complicated Horse who Needs You”

Dear Dr. Dan,

I have a Appaloosa/Warmblood cross who is currently on your Just Add Oats and RedCal,  He is also on __________ and _________ and gets barley instead of oats.  Here is my problem, anytime I try to give him something to increase his energy it goes right to his brain and not his muscles.  If he eats oats, sugar, high protein, high magnesium, beetpulp and a few other things that I have tried he get supper skiddish.  He is not overweight and doesn't have any fat pockets just lacks energy.  Can you give me any advice?

Sincerely,  
Veronica

Hi Veronica,

You mentioned RED CAL and JAO but I didn't see mention of our Weight Check Oil being provided which is one of the 3 supplements suggested as part of the "Feed For Success" program/diet. (a.k.a. www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com )

The Weight Check Oil will deliver the type of energy you are seeking for this horse—but of course, providing Oats instead of barley are going to deliver the optimum results as so many others have. I should also add-just to be sure- that the RED CAL should be provided free-choice so they have all they want all the time.No rocks/blocks around at all!

You won't need the _____________ and _____________ and Pleeeassse, NO beet pulp! (IMHO)
see "Why Not To Feed Beet Pulp": http://askdrdan.com/2010/01/29/beet-pulp-article-for-reference/

I really think the above will help you to see a new horse.

I appreciate you asking and giving me a chance to "weigh-in". Do keep me posted Veronica

Dr. Dan

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

Sherry asks about her rescued horse and its navicular cyst

Hi Dr Dan,

I have rescued a 7yr old Haflinger Mare, who has ben diagnosed with a Navicular Cyst.  

Standard Protocal for this seems to be Bute. Most Vets feel that this condition never really goes away and must be managed.  I have turned her out in a 15acre field (reasonably good field) with a spring fed creek. with 3 other horses.  I already have them on BUG CHECK FIELD FORM with Just add Oats given a couple times a week, with Aple cider Vinegar.  She is not lame now, and has not shown lameness for a couple months. I understand this condition can be intermitten at first.  What are your thoughts on this condition? what other supplements would you use, or would I just wait and see how she does with what I am feeding?  I plan on re MRI ing her in the spring.  

Best, Sherry

Hi Sherry!!!

The first thing I would try and often has shown results is to provide our Joint Check supplement. With a 1000 lb horse I would start with 2 scoops daily and probably continue there even. That alone has helped many. Of course Joint Check also includes the ingredients of Health Check (antioxidants etc.) so it is only healthy and much more than just a "joint" product. And since you are already adhering to aspects of the feeding program that will help even more.

I don't suggest vinegar however- just too much potential to adversely affect the pH

Keep me posted!

 

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

Cathy asks about what type of hay for these horses

Dear Dr. Dan,
 
We are in Wisconsin, and have a client in Florida who has recently moved her horses down there and was having trouble keeping weight on her hot mare.  She started feeding a pelleted formula, and now the mare is so hot she cannot ride her.  The feed store employees told her not to feed oats unless she is feeding alfalfa hay, which she cant at $25 per bale!  She is feeding coastal hay, and that is about all she can find down there.  Will the oats keep weight on her mare?  Does she need to feed a different type of hay?  Is there any products made for “hot” horses to calm them?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Cathy

Hello Cathy,

She just needs our feeding program.  The comment from the feed store guy is because the oats need balancing.. the "Just Add Oats", the RED CAL and the Weight Check Oil oil do that (naturallly!).

Bermuda Hay is awful! It is more apt to cause impaction/colic than any other But there are other hays to pick from, but as they already know that are just pricey. Just so you know for future reference, personally I have always like timothy and orchard at 50/50.

And of course NO commercial feed.

The program again will help with the weight especially the Weight Check Oil (whether weight on or weight off) and as it says on the label…. CALM Calories!

Oh yea, here is an easy direct link to my "Feed Oats" article in case you missed before:
http://askdrdan.com/2009/09/19/for-the-health-of-horses-feed-oats-2/

Hope this helps and thanks for asking! Hope all is going great for you guys!

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

Jan shares her testimonial (her’s and her horse’s) Thank You!

Dear Dr. Dan,  

I have to write to say how pleased I am with all of your products.

This past weekend my 16 year old Arabian gelding won Reserve Champion at a 2-day 50 mile Competitive Trail Ride in Pennsylvania.

I started him one year ago on your feeding program of High Mag Red Cal, Weight Check Oil, Just Add Oats, Joint Check, Hoof Check and Bug Check along with hay, oats and pasture. At the vet holds I gave him Red Cal and Hydraid with his oats. In spite of the high heat and humidity, his pulse and respiration recoveries were the lowest they've ever been in 10 years of competing with this horse.

I was also thrilled with how calm and focused he was on the trail. With so many conflicting recommendations for the best feeding program for endurance and competitive trail horses, I can honestly tell other riders yours is the best I've ever tried in 30 years of owning and competing horses.

Just had to say thank you for your healthy products,
Jan

P.S. Your Reddox and Great Shakes helped his aging rider's energy too!

First, WOW! and congratulations on you and your horse's victory Jan!

Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with me Jan… and to put it into words for others to enjoy. You don't know how much it means to not only me and my family, but to those that work with me as well. We all thank you and appreciate your support.

Dr. Dan

 

Bonnie asks about liver detox- horse / bute

Do you have a liver detox for a horse that has had to have lots of Bute?
-Bonnie

Hello Bonnie…

Our RED CAL product is not only our recommended "natural" salt/mineral/electrolyte supplement-
(NO Blocks/Rocks!!!) but an excellent liver "detox-inator" due to its Montmorrilionite Clay ingredeint
In fact we also have a people product called REDOXX that contains it as well- and like RED CAL,
it is multi-beneficial— helping keep the liver clean and so much more.

Both are products that no horse or person should be without!

See: What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com and
http://REDOXXusa.com/npv

Also for your horse, I suggest our Joint Check product. You see while it is an excellent "Joint"
product, it also is loaded with antioxidants that are going to support the body's detoxing and
provide other healthy support.

Thanks for asking Bonnie!

Dr. Dan

Check out these helpful links:

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

 

Rainy asks about these bumps on her pony

I have a shetland pony with what the vet said are protein bumps. she is covered with pea sized bumps on her neck and shoulder.     when i bought her she had no bumps and was happy and healthy eating alfalfa and grain when she first got the bumps. we dropped the grain and when they did not go away we consulted a vet who said they were "protein bumps"and that we had to stop feeding alfalfa and only feed her grass. He then gave her steroid shots but it did not fix anything for we have had to do many rounds of those shots and she still has them. now we want to breed her but can't as long as we have to do the shots.  

I have been studying  your Aller Check. Oh we do soak her grass hay to get the proteins out.      so my questions are 1) what can I use to help these go away? 2) are your supplements safe to use in a pregnant mare? 3) how long do I need to use the supplements?

Aller Check 2lb - 2 Pk

Definitely sounds like allergies and if you have been looking into our Aller Check product, then you are on the right track. Of course, if you have already been looking around you
already know that I'm going to strongly recommend the components of our feeding program 
("What To Feed" link below).

Here's a recent posting of a question and answer that refers to allergies, Red Cal and Aller Check:
http://askdrdan.com/2011/07/28/sally-asks-about-our-red-cal-for-mares-allergies/

While I hope that others would be "totally" with the program- providing those supplements are going to be multi-beneficial- especially the RED CAL. I truly wish that every horse had
RED CAL available free-choice all they wanted all the time.

The What To Feed link will also link you to a Perfect Pastures article you will enjoy gathering information from as well.  Of course there are lots more article/audios/videos at the "Library" link as time would allow you to enjoy.

I often say, "being proactive means responding to challenges ahead of time", so as far as how long supplements should be provided I think our basic support supplements should
be provided at least at a maintenance level (after gaining control of a challenge)—  They are all so full of goodness they can and should be used year round. Even Bug Check!

Lastly, as far as pregnant mares using our supplements- legally we are required to put warnings on our Joint Check and our two "Critical Care" products. I personally have 60+ Mares and they, and thousands and thousands of others, "get" all the products and have been doing so for many many years.

Thanks for considering Aller Check and our other supplements and for the opportunity to serve.

Keep me posted.

Dr. Dan

Sally asks about our RED CAL for mare’s allergies…

I have a mare with allergies to grasses and molds.  Would the Red Cal help her?
Would the Red Cal help her?

Hello Sally,

Providing our RED CAL would definitely be a step in the right direction. Below I am going to copy and paste my article about allergies that you can also find throughout our sites including the Magazine. There is also a "Perfect Pastures" article that you can find in the magazine as well as the "What To Feed" link that is also below that I think you will enjoy if not found already. Of course the What To Feed Your Horse/ Feed For Success program (includes RED CAL) is a great foundation to build upon.

I hope you find this helpful and thanks for asking!

Dr. Dan

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

Allergies, Itchy Skin and Other Icky Stuff

Dan Moore, DVM; The Natural Horse Vet

Yep, summer is here and so are those wonderful flies, mosquitoes and, for many horse owners- those continued awful allergy challenges.

Often hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, have been spent doing blood tests on affected horses. These usually come back telling you nothing can be done. And they frequently say your horses are allergic to items that you couldn’t possibly keep them away from, like flies, certain hays, and dust! Desensitization with allergy shots is usually recommended. However, allergy shots are expensive. What’s worse is they only work about 50% of the time! Other alternatives, such as steroids and antihistamines are becoming less and less popular, too; it appears they only make matters worse.

Yes, allergy problems in horses are a nightmare and unfortunately allergies are becoming more and more prevalent as a day doesn’t go by that I don’t have a question submitted by someone seeking solutions- natural solutions! Hopefully, with the knowledge I am about to give you, you will never have to experience them with your horse (again)!

What are the symptoms?

The obvious symptom of allergies is itching. This is often accompanied by hives, which are little raised bumps, similar to what a bee sting would make. In severe cases, hives are so numerous they gather together, causing what are called whelts. In extremely severe cases, the horse itches so bad it rubs and bites its skin until it is raw and/or bleeding! Horse owners feel helpless! Fly sprays, lotions, etc. help somewhat. Yet, for the most part, these simply make the owner feel better  – not necessarily their horse.

The cause is not what the horses are exposed to!

Flies, mosquitoes, and bug bites in general are “triggers” that make things worse, but they are NOT the cause of allergies. The cause is from “within”. Think about that for a moment. Why are some horses allergic to flies, hay, dust, etc. – items that are normal for them to be around? Why do horses today have problems when exposed to opossum manure (the source of the organism that causes EPM)?  Horses have lived with opossums for millions of years! What has changed? Why are our horses more susceptible to illness such as allergies from flies, and West Nile from mosquitoes?  Aren’t mosquitoes and flies  normal insects for horses to be exposed to while in the wild?  Today, unlike when I graduated from Vet School in 1980, just 25 years ago, things seem worse. Our horses appear to be weaker today as opposed to yesteryears?  It is similar for humans. Can you imagine a Native American Indian stalking up on his prey, crawling through bushes full of pollen and all of a sudden, sneezing?!  In man, allergies were never even heard of until the industrial revolution. In fact, the first mention of allergies was in highly polluted industrial areas of England. At first they were called Rose Fever, later simply allergies. Man and horse are worse today because we have bombarded them with so many vaccines, chemicals, pollutants and toxins. The consequence for man and beast, is an  immune system that is critically out of balance. It simply is in “hyper” mode – not really knowing anymore to what it should react … so it simply starts reacting to everything – all those things you couldn’t possibly keep a horse away from!

Another example of an over-reactive immune system is “Heaves”, or COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease). Essentially this is an allergy in the lungs. Autoimmune diseases (where the body reacts to itself) are also related. The bottom line is that the immune system is being overworked!

What a mess we have!

We have ruined our soils with salt fertilizers, over-vaccinated, over-medicated, over or incorrectly supplemented, and over-sugared so much, that a horse’s body does not know which way to turn. When was the last time YOU were vaccinated? Probably long ago! When was the last time you vaccinated your horse? Probably last week! For instance, vaccinations are often filled with preservatives like mercury and foreign protein. Ask yourself, “Are all of these vaccinations really needed year after year”? Let me assure you, everything, including vaccinations, has a consequence. If you have an allergy horse, please look at this issue carefully. Continually “sensitizing” with foreign tissue via vaccines, is a big part of the allergy syndrome. Copious vaccinations are not natural! The vaccines that your state requires are the only ones your horse should have.

***By the way, most will agree that allergies start in the spring. Nearly all horses are vaccinated every spring. Let me know if you see a relationship between allergies and vaccinations. I would appreciate the email!

Nutrition is critical!

The best way to prevent or treat any disease, not just allergies, is to look at what the horse’s body is getting too much or not enough of! We have discussed vaccines and chemicals already. Vitamins, minerals and salt are equally important. Minerals are often full of heavy metals like aluminum and lead. Studies at the University of Kentucky show that Lead and Cadmium are often contaminants in minerals. Even salt is chemically made for other industries, not for horses. The horse’s body has to handle all of this extra “junk” in one way or other.

I don’t know anyone who doesn’t try their very best to get their horses what they need. BUT it can be so confusing! What do you feed? What do you supplement? The list of questions goes on. Do you feel that you need a PhD in Nutrition? Are you considering going to vet school just so you will know how to take care of your horse’s needs properly? You don’t need either degree. Truly it is not that difficult!

Keep in mind the basics… and leave the rest to Nature!

For instance, horses, in general, don’t get enough fat, and get far too much sugar from sweet feed and corn. The essential fatty acids are a must in allergy horses. In order to deliver these, along with more fat, the best source, in my opinion, is coconut oil. We add crude, unrefined soybean oil to this to keep it liquid so you can pour it because coconut is a solid at room temperature. Also coconut oil is stable, and much less likely to go rancid, than flax or rice bran sources. Vegetable oil and corn oil are practically useless except for calories, of which most horses get way too much of, anyway. 

Basic #1: More Fat, Less Sugar

Basic #2: With allergy horses, especially, NEVER rely on complete feeds.

 A “complete feed” or even oats alone simply can not  provide what an allergy horse needs. For example, take two 1000 lb. horses – one horse that eats ten (10) pounds per day of a complete feed, or oats,  - the other eats only 3 pounds. The later will get far less vitamins and minerals than the horse that eats 10 pounds per day- right? These  “easy keepers” often get far less of what they need with regards to vitamins and minerals. This perpetuates the problem even more. The horses’ whole metabolism is adversely affected! They are stressed metabolically and they eventually wind up as insulin resistant, hypothyroid, laminitic, or cushinoid, and in some cases have such a messed up immune system they “develop” allergies – all because they were not getting enough vitamins or minerals. Personally, I don’t think there is such a thing as a complete feed! There are just too many variables. Each horse should be supplemented individually – especially the allergy horse! Our soils and foods grown on them, simply can’t provide a balanced diet today. Remember though, many minerals and vitamins however are man made. Even worse, many of them are another industry’s “left overs”.

Basic #3: All allergy horses must be supplemented with vitamins and minerals.

Basic #4: Allergy horses need plenty of anti-oxidants.

It only makes sense to help the body in every way possible to get rid of the “junk” that it is exposed to day in and day out. Anti-oxidants do just that! The best analogy I’ve heard is that the foreign substances to which the body is exposed day in and day out cause the body to “rust” – and anti-oxidants prevent the rusting. The beneficial effects of anti-oxidants are not often seen immediately in a relatively healthy horse or person but are often immediate in allergy horses, especially when really good anti-oxidants are used. No doubt about it – anti-oxidants add years to ones’ life; but when severe allergy cases can be reversed with their use – that impresses me. For instance, my first experience with anti-oxidants in horses overwhelmed me. I had a patient with Heeves that was really about ready to die, and because I had seen tremendous beneficial lung changes in people from using grape seed in such cases, I decided to try it. I fed this horse $300 dollars worth of Grape Seed capsules in one month. I must have broken open 1000 capsules, but the horse improved – became well enough to go home! This showed me that anti-oxidants are a lot more than just a little vitamin A, C and E as so many products tout. Needless to say we used a lot more anti-oxidants in the future – in fact, today we have a specific anti-oxidant product for allergies – Much improved over our capsule experience! ALL of our horses, everyday, are supplemented with anti-oxidants. We want them around a long time. 

Finally, Basic #5:   Don’t short the salt. Horses are not lickers!

THE major factor in allergies, or any illness of “unknown” cause, is the misuse of salt and mineral blocks. Free choice, natural sources of salt and minerals will help your horse’s allergies improve drastically. Horses are not lickers: they can’t get what they need from salt or mineral blocks quickly enough to get what they need! Horses need change whenever the barometer changes because the grasses that they eat have changed. The chemical composition of grass actually change with the weather. Also our “salt based” fertilizers used today often confuse the horse. The potassium contained within them literally tricks the horse into thinking he has plenty of salt already because the potassium ion is so similar to sodium. When this happens, they quit eating salt or if they only have access to blocks, they can’t even get as much of what they need. This situation is a major metabolic stress on the system. Many problems can result. The obvious ones are” tying up” and what we generally think are electrolyte problems.

The least obvious, but the most dangerous, is the massive change in gut bacteria, which sometimes can be life threatening. Examples are laminitis, abortion, and allergies. Even free choice minerals can be a problem! That’s because man only has a vague idea of what our horses need. Every year new minerals and vitamins are being discovered – so how can we put them in a bag? When man makes a mineral mix, he is simply guessing. Even with a free choice mix that just has massive amounts of this and that, horses simply over-consume what they don’t need, while trying to get what they do need and quite honestly what they do need might not even be in the mix to begin with! I assure you; man-made blocks and mixes are missing critical elements! Many of the tiny micronutrients, or elements, like rubidium, molybdenum, palladium, cesium, and strontium, are critical for problems like allergies, COPD and even cancer. When I take away typical “man-made” salt and mineral blocks, and replace them with natural sources, many allergies and other problems go away! It is amazing what nature provides! I really hope you have stuck with me long enough to read this single point. The most important thing you can do for your horse’s health is to provide a natural source of salt and minerals.

Although we are still learning about allergies, a few things are very important.

Certainly keeping flies and pests away is critical, but don’t overuse the chemicals or you could be adding fuel to the fire.  The cause of an allergy must be addressed, rather than just treating the symptoms. Nutrition is critical. Vitamins, minerals, anti-oxidants, and essential fatty acids should not be overlooked as part of the treatment. Less sugar in the diet is always best. Feeding oats rather than “complete” feed, supplemented with NATURAL sources of vitamins and minerals – top dressed and based on the needs of each individual horse is also best. And instead of salt and mineral blocks, natural “free choice” supplements are better and may even contain beneficial  ingredients we don’t even know about yet.

Finally, in my very humble opinion, you should only vaccinate for what you absolutely think is necessary. If we provide the body what it needs, it will heal itself!

Thanks for “listening”.

Dr. Dan

Equine Affaire Audio Presentation: Discussing dehydration, electrolytes, fats, flies and much more!

A special presentation that I conducted at a past Equine Affaire that has been listened to and downloaded thousands of times. It is a live event so the audio reflects that but still the audio is very informative and helpful for you during the warm weather months no matter where you live, ride or travel.

Click Player Below To Start or Use Download Link To Save And Play…

Janice asks about feeding her horse Oats…

Message: Hello, I am now feed pellet grain 10% from Nutrena and have been for about 7 yrs.  My horse is 10 and I have a 6yr old mini. They get about one cup of grain in the morning and that is it.  Only reason I feed the grain is because I feed suppliments. I give them Probois, electrolytes, and Source in the morning with the grain. So now I am considering giving the oats in place of my grain which I thought would be better the the grain.  The oats I will be thinking of getting are rolled oats. my question is :  my friends are saying that oats are straight starch and straight startch isn't good for them -I was wondering what ur concept was on that comment since u also recommend oats. al though I would love to purchase your "just add oats" but I can not afford to purchase since my hubby has had a severe accident and is disabled so I thought the oats would be better than the grain – do u agree?  and am I taking away nutriention from them removing the grain from them?  I feed Orchard grass hay of usually very good quality  thanks for you time on this

Like you know already I prefer oats— lowest starch of all grains and contain no hydrogenated fats like in commercial feed. I also have to add that if my suggested program of feed and supplements are followed than the other supplements you are providing won't be needed. There are videos and audios on the "What To Feed Your Horse" link that you may want to share with those others. Also, every mention of Oats at AskDrDan.com starts here: http://askdrdan.com/?s=Oats (use the "Older Posts" link at the bottom of each page to scroll thru them all and see http://askdrdan.com/?s=Oats&paged=2 , http://askdrdan.com/?s=Oats&paged=3 etc. )

Thanks for asking Janice.

Dr. Dan

Check out these helpful links:
 
What To Feed Your Horse? http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

The Natural Horse Vet Magazine: http://www.DrDanMag.com

Dr. Dan's Library: http://www.DrDanLibrary.com

The Natural Vet On The Net: http://TheNaturalVet.net

Deanna asks about horse not sweating enough with exercise…

Dr. Dan, Our 6 y/o halflinger pony is having a little bit of trouble with not sweating enough with exercise.  He is already on JAO/Red Cal/WCO/Bug Check every day and we are only riding him at dawn or the coolest part of the day.  Aside from that, our regular vet suggested One AC to help him sweat better.

Can you recommend a natural alternative to the One AC for anhidrosis?  As always, thanks for your advice!  Deanna

Hi Deanna,

I'm sure you already are—- but be sure RED CAL is available free-choice at all times. Now, as with the competition horses etc. I do suggest our "HYDRAID" supplement that will definitely make them drink more water and help with this.

keep me posted and thanks for asking!
 

Hydraid - 4 lb

Adds In Hydration Plus Fortified with Vitamins, Minerals, Direct Fed Microbials
Feed alone or top dress onto feed 1 tablespoon. Use before, during and after events (race, show, endurance)

Click Here For Full Hydraid Label

 

Amy asks this question for her older, skinny, rescued horse…

I am looking for suggestions on what would be best for my “old guy”.  He is 27+ yrs old.  I rescued him 10 months ago just days before he would have starved to death.  He was covered with rain rot too.  We are trying to put weight on him, he is doing much better conditioning wise although he is still way underweight.  To add to it, he was recently kicked (once or twice) in the shoulder and is not weight bearing on it right now.  He also battles hoof issues/abscesses.  I am currently feeding him Purina Sr feed and soaked beet pulp shreds.  For his swollen shoulder he is getting banamine, rubbed down with ThermaFlex and I just bought him some boswellia for the swelling.

Hello Amy.

First let me commend you for taking this horse in. I do hope he gets better.

My feeding program that you can see more about at:
http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com  is not only the foundation to build
upon for success but is always my first suggestion.

I prefer Oats and supplement with our Just Add Oats (vitamins,minerals,probiotics)— then our RED CAL fed free-choice salt mineral product—NO Blocks or Rocks- not at all! The third component is our "Weight Check" Oil that works to either put weight on or take off- whichever is needed. The oil is GMO-Free and is the actual oil of the soybean and verified by me to be GMO-FREE.

If you look at the above site you will see that I never recommend any commercial feed.

I also do not like Beet Pulp at all- sucks the nutrition right out of the gut.
Within these posts you will see info and an article on "Why Not To Feed Beet Pulp"
http://askdrdan.com/?s=beet+pulp

So many issues and even those with hooves in my opinion should be addressed working
from the inside-out to get rid of and keep junk out of the body— beginning
with proper nutrition as outlined above and good supplementation. Our Joint Check
product is a great product as it really is more than just a "joint-type" product as it contains
the antioxidants (just as in our Health Check) needed to help support this cleansing.
It's a combo product that i highly recommend for an older horse. I of course also offer
a Hoof Check product to use to gain control of hoof issues if needed.

Boswellia is a fine ingredient to add support with and another homeopathic ingredient
that may help in that same regard is Arnica Montana.

Many older horses have done better with the above suggestions. Doing a search on
my archived question/answer site I have found some posts from other owners
with older horses and some that have shared their results as well. You can see them
here: http://askdrdan.com/?s=older

I do hope this information helps you on the decisions you need to make for your horse.

I appreciate you asking and giving me the opportunity to share. Please keep me
posted.

 

 

Pam asks about possible PSSM horse…

Recently on Facebook…

Can you give me any advice on a PSSM horse that is on your feed program for one year'
thanks .. Pam

Hi Pam. Is this something recently diagnosed? Any other info would be helpful.
 

No she has not officially been diagnosed, I almost lost her a couple years ago when a vet said she was EPM and to just let her die.

So I had her tested and found to be negative EPM

Then i brought her home and started checking around and she had all the symptoms of pssm so I put her on 4 cups rice bran and two cups corn oil with beet pulp, and she got a lot better then I found your products and she is on the program and is doing great, but she does get crampy in her hind gut and she is hard to ride due to not wanting to move.

I fed he immune support by silver lining and now she is "cinchy" again right under the girth area, she almost falls down if i chinch her up snugly ,

I have to do it fairly loose at first walk then make it tighter. been reading a lot about the PSSM horses and that they now have test dna for type one but not two and i dont want to do the muscle biopsy.

Often i think she is about to colic and it seems if i get some electrolytes in her and she drinks she comes right out of it.

What i notice is she gets muscle spasms in her abdomen.

She looks great on your products—- before them she was so skinny i thought she was going to die. now she is a bit fat.

The rice bran and oil did get the weight on but i was worried she would founder with so much.

Now i feed her 1/2 # oats soaked overnight in water then add your stuff — all three and then some electrolytes during hot weather.

She gets alfalfa am and pm and she gets bermuda noon and orchard grass pm.

I am thinking of cutting the alfalfa back and more orchard grass.

Hope i did not bore you to death and i am just learning about all this thanks for any help.

My suggestions based on what you have said here would be to definitely cut out the alfalfa..not needed. You mention "adding electrolytes" but if you are providing RED CAL free-choice all the time so that it is available to them to eat what they need when they need it— there is no better source of electrolytes IMO, this is an important part of the program or even regardless if one is on the "program".

Also, I do not ever suggest rice bran. It may pull calcium out of the bones .. just provide more Weight Check Oil than the recommended maintenance amount- (which won't put on weight and will help lose if needed too) if need extra weight ..

I've stated often and ity has been my opinion for a long time that Beet Pulp is no good to say the least. Again, in my opinion it just sucks nutrition right out of the gut…

I would provide our Health Check for detox of liver etc and for ideal immune support our Aller Check supplement.

I'm glad that you are enjoying the results from where you were before and hope you'll consider my suggestions for further support. Again, be sure RED CAL is provided free-choice all the time.

Thanks for asking- keep me posted.

Reference: http://www.FeedForSuccess.?com/
 

I will get the RED CAL in there free-choice and see what happens, She did do a whole bucket of Health Check 6 months ago we finished it, is that something she should have all the time? thank you for answering my questions….pam
 

Health Check all the time for the antioxidants etc. is a support item that yes I would recommend all the time. The feeding program is the foundation and then Health or Joint Check (Joint has what Health has but has added ingredients for joint support— making it more than just a joint product) and Bug Check are the next support products I recommend for a basic daily regimen. Thanks for asking!
 

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Raida asks about melanomas in gray horses

Dear Dr. Dan:  

Two years ago we lost an 18 yr. old gray horse to melanomas.  Our other 15 yr. old gray horse has them all around under her tail.  The swellings around and under her tail bone seem to be growing.  I only feed oats as a supplement feed with bug check in it. Also started feeding your Bug Check Field Formula free-choice, but after the 1st week she eats very little of it. We try to feed brome or timothy hay with a little alfalfa in the winter.  She does have access to a small pasture with fescue in it.

Please let me know what you think, as she really needs some help.  

Thank You,  Raida  
P. S.  She also seems to have a lung problem as she coughs quite a bit when I ride her and seems short of breath.

Hello Raida,

Oats and Bug Check (Field Formula w/Red Cal) just really aren't enough. I do suggest the entire feeding program which includes our Just Add Oats and our Weight Check oil. The Weight Check oil will also make the supplements stick to the oats better too. (You are already using the Bug Check Field Formula that contains RED CAL and that's great)

Now for problem. …topically I would use our Grape Balm healer every other day or so. I would add our Aller Check to help support the lungs and the immune system. Also, with any such thing on the skin (holistically speaking) the body is trying to get rid of "something". Of course it can be anything and most likely cumulative over the entire life.. chemicals, vaccine foreign material, hydrogenated fats etc…. Our Health Check supplement will help the body accomplish this.

Of course do understand as I am sure you do that such issues are tough to deal with regardless. The above is only support, but is what I would do if this horse were mine.

Thanks so much for asking and do keep us informed.
Dr. Dan

Referenced: www.FeedForSuccess.com