Diana asks about fecals, Worm Check

Hi, I am placing an order for Bug Check and want to use your Worm Check and do the fecals. I did a standard allopathic wormer at the end of May. When would you recommend I do the fecals and when should I start using the Worm Check?

Thanks
Diana

3 weeks after using any wormer is a good time to follow up with a fecal just to be sure no resistant species still present.

Thanks for asking!

For reference: www.WormCheck.com

discussion with Kim. (she loves our products!)

Hi, I just starting using the RED CAL ,  Just Add Oats and Weight Check Oil feeding  program for our 2 horses and love it. However,  the question for this email is my friend is in Mexico (from US but there on extended visit) and her dog has worms. What can we recommend to expel them at this stage? FYI-she had him on Heartguard!!

Thanks in advance for your response on a product to recommend.

Kim B.

For sure nothing over the counter… it took me 3 years to find the right combination of ingredients for our product called Worm Check and was created for horses but people use it for their pet's health too.

Unfortunately I have tried to ship to Mexico in the past but with little success .. I would ask a veterinarian there as what types of worms it is— this is an important part of treatment and such may be specific to that geographical area.

Wish I could help more.

Thanks, I am not sure what type [of worms it is] but forwarded your email….

Also, just sent in our horse fecals for parasite testing [Worm Check Exam]… Will be ordering more products from your site!

My sister saw and spoke to you at Ohio Equine Affaire and we are fans!! I am in Massachusetts, she is in Evans City PA.
Thanks again, Kim

Thank You for your support Kim. I am glad I got to meet your sister.

Referenced:
WhatToFeedYourHorse.com
WormCheck.com

 

Pam asks about natual deworming and lungworms in her donkeys…

Hello, I have two horses and a donkey. I am just wondering about starting a natural deworming program. I also wonder about lungworms in Donkeys.

How should I start and how many tubes should I purchase?

Thank you,
Pam C.

Hi Pam,

You find even more info about natural deworming at www.WormCheck.com The site  will help answer questions further, but before I would buy anything I would start with fecal checks (called "Worm Check Exams" on our site).  Lung worms should show on fecal exams too. 

Thanks For Askin!

“Winter Woes” for your horses, or not?

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AVOID THE WINTER WOES…

 

 The answer to winter woes is easy…simply move south!
 
 It worked for me, believe it or not – as a child I used to live in New Jersey! My southern accent now assures those who hear it that times have changed!
 
 Honestly, times (i.e. the weather) have changed for the north as well. It just doesn’t seem as wintry anymore. Of course, my friends in Vermont would disagree!
 
 Around the beginning of January the temperature is about 35 degrees below. I honestly can’t imagine such temperatures, but the natives tolerate it well, and so do their many gaited Mountain Horses.
 
 Why? Partially because the breed is a hardy one, but perhaps mostly because people are prepared – and well before the cold sets in.
 
 The most obvious preparation is adequate shelter for their horses. Despite what you might think, a windbreak of any sort and a roof over their heads is all that is needed for most. Only those who simply have never been exposed to extreme weather should have a problem. This brings up the subject of acclimation.
 
 Common sense would tell one to gradually introduce our four legged friends to any extreme weather. Never just “throw them out” into the cold unless they are used to it. Fortunately nature generally prepares all horses for winter. Heavy coats, a little extra fat, and usually all will well.
 
 Aside from shelter and acclimation, winter nutrition is critical. In most situations hay, alone, will not suffice. Of course, plenty of good hay is a must – even before the onset of the cold. Before the grass is even gone you should start feeding hay. This assures your horses put on the fat. I don’t mean belly- busting fat, which is not good for any beast, but just pleasantly plump. I would define pleasantly plump as where you can’t see any ribs showing, and they just look “a little” fat. At any time of year other than winter, one should be able to feel but not see the ribs.

 In addition to hay, another way to add a little extra fat is to feed a little extra fat. The key to this fat is feeding the “right fat”, which is often hard to find in horse feeds today. Many feeds contain cheap corn or vegetable oil, which are processed and/or hydrogenated in some fashion. These oils are cheaper for the manufacturer and, honestly, are more stable (which is important to the stores if feed is stored for any length of time), but are awful for any horse’s body (or ours, our pets’, or that of any living species).
 
 Our Weight Check Oil Is GMO-FREE!Also, when fats are processed, the “goodie” is filtered out and sold elsewhere. Natural, unprocessed, GMO free (if available) oils still contain the “goodies”. “Goodies” include such natural preservatives as vitamin E, tocopherols, and sterols, which are fairly stable, albeit more costly. In my humble opinion, the real cause of obese horses – summer, winter, or any time – in what we often call “insulin resistant” or “metabolic” horses – is processed fats. They cause these conditions by interfering with the exchange of nutrients at the cellular membrane level, disallowing the good nutrition to enter and the waste to exit.
 
 The key to avoiding this situation is good fats, not processed or hydrogenated fats. Personally, I like soy bean oil for horses. Soy beans provide “calm calories”, as opposed to the “hot calories” that one might get from corn oil. By the weigh- I mean way(!)- most of the “weight builder” types of products that one sees on the market have these processed fats as the main ingredients. Please read the labels!
 
 Check the labels good and try your best to avoid feeds with corn and molasses. For instance, corn is essentially all calories, effectively just all sugar. Just like sweet feed, corn is definitely not a healthy diet – even in the dead of winter. Granted, heat is produced from the burning of the calories, but corn has the same glycemic index as sugar, and obviously the molasses in sweet feed is sugar. I recently read about top trainer who actually recommends molasses for its nutritional benefits. I am sorry, but I totally disagree! Anything that causes a spike in sugar (even eating a candy bar) causes a subsequent spike in insulin. These spikes of highs and lows lead to insulin resistance, which also creates other metabolic issues: the laminitis prone, the cushinoid- all those fat horses that are on the edge of illness.
 
 our "Just Add Oats" SupplementRather than corn or sweet feed, I prefer to feed oats. Add to these oats the good fats and always a vitamin/mineral supplement, and you have the best feed for any time of the year. For a little more fat in the winter, add a little more oil. Also, the nice thing about using oats rather then premixed feeds is that you can vary the amount given to each individual horse, and if you are adding the vitamin/mineral supplement to the amount of oats needed, each horse gets all of the vitamins, minerals, etc. they need each day.
 
 Let me ask you a question. What is the first thing you typically do for an easy keeper horse? The obvious thing is to cut back on the feed. The problem with that is, if you simply just cut back on a premixed feed, then obviously the horse will not be getting the necessary amounts of vitamins, minerals, etc… The subsequent lack of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc… then only leads to more metabolic issues.
 
 It also goes without saying that water, not ice, is critical for winter health. If you live in an area where water freezes, heat it. Your local supplies store can advise you on what specifically is needed for that problem. Where I live freezing does occur, but only for a day or two at a time. We simply carry an ice breaker, like an ax, on the feed cart.
 
 It is hard for me to discuss winter without mentioning spring. Good hay, fed all winter long, often has high potassium levels – after all, good hay is generally heavily fertilized right? You know, the 10-10-10 stuff? Nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus. What happened to the rest of minerals on the Periodic Table we studied in high school? Something seems to be missing here. Back to the main point, too much potassium, in a short period of time, without chloride to balance it is deadly for a horse.
 
 RED CAL in 25 LB Bags, say no to salt blocks!This brings up a significant need for salt ( i.e sodium chloride) and plenty of it – and preferably not in the form of a block! Blocks should be outlawed for horses, in my opinion. They simply cannot get what they need fast enough. Horses need loose granular salt, preferably organic (not kiln dried and bleached and dead, like typical salt), and free choice – all they can eat – always available.
 
 I also prefer natural minerals, not processed, or other industries’ leftovers.
 
 Good, soft, readily available calcium will help balance the excess phosphorus from fertilizers. I’m sure you’re aware that most of our grains today are heavily fertilized, as well. If we could only find a good inexpensive source of ORGANIC fertilizers, I truly believe our horses would be much healthier. I suspect many of you already have the answer to this problem piled up next to your barn. Now that’s a bunch of #$%*!
 
 WhatToFeedYourHorse.com linkA salt deprived horse, such as one that only has access to a block, when springtime comes may over-consume the lush green grass, causing him to eat too much potassium. Understand that sodium and potassium are very similar substances. In fact, it is difficult for the horse to actually tell the difference. Here you could face a situation where the horse does not even desire sodium, or salt, and salt is very critical to things such as water consumption. The lack of water consumption, combined with dry hay can lead to impaction. Free choice, loose, natural salt and minerals simply have to be available at all times. (our product for this purpose is called RED Cal)
 
 One other nutrient, frequently overlooked in winter, is beta carotene. Hay simply won’t provide it. If you want cycling early for breeding you need to consider supplementing it (Our Weight Check Oil contains beta carotene).
 
 Play the "Worm Shots" GameGeriatric horses and younger horses, in the winter, may require special attention (I refer to younger horses as horses under three). Parasites, especially in the winter, when horses are more stressed, can be a real issue, particularly for younger horses. Geriatric horses, honestly, are pretty much resistant to parasites by the time they reach their ripe old age. But if winter is especially harsh, stress can bring out the worst in all situations. My advice with regards to deworming has always been to obtain fecal exams prior to worming, rather than the simple indiscriminant administration of worm medication on a time schedule regardless of age.
 
 With this in mind, fecal exams in late fall for all of your horses would be an important consideration, followed by the appropriate dewormer, if parasites are present. Frankly, I suggest fecal exams on horses under 3 years of age every two or three months, and adult horses every four to five. Although it may be more trouble then simply giving a tube of dewormer, in my opinion it’s a much healthier alternative for both the horse and the environment. Parasite resistance from overuse of chemical dewormers is a serious and growing problem.
 
 Download Feed For Success BulletinA basic and commonsense approach to good health, with perhaps a few twists, is the best approach to the woes potentially brought on by the winter months. You can hardly beat the combination of proper shelter, diet, attention to the most fundamentally necessary minerals as well as supplements (which may simply not be available in sufficient levels in the average horse’s diet), and appropriate deworming to stave off potential problems brought on by the stresses of cold weather.
 
 It is cheaper than moving south if you're not already there!
 

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Kathy asks more about Deworming

Hello,

 I took your advice on doing a fecal check on my mare for worms.  She was wormed 5 weeks ago with a paste wormer.  The fecal check came back totally clear with no parasites what-so-ever.  The vet does a fecal check by spinning etc. and doesn't just do a float therefore getting a truer reading.  She is not a shedder. I was very happy.  What now???  I usually worm every 8 weeks but now I don't have to.  When do I worm next?? Do I use your herbal wormer when I do.  Your help would be greatly appreciated.  

Thanks,  Kathy H.

Actually floats are just as effective for testing.  I am glad your vet does fecals for horses, most don't. I would just do another fecal in 8 weeks when you normally would deworm. If positive try ours or continue with the chemical "poisons" (obviously not my favorite choice but sometimes required since they have been so overused and there are so many resistant species now). Thanks for asking!

Sheryl asks a deworming question…

Thank you for your impressive prompt response to our Equine Sarcoids email.  Appreciate your opinion, will ponder your advice.  

One other quick question, same horse 14 yr gelding, NSH recent full fecal egg count was 625.  Really do not want to use a chemical wormer, have used Dynamite Herbal Tonic, too much powder, Jake (horse) would not eat it, got him to eat it, did not reduce his worm count.  

With this current egg count would you try your natural wormer (LOVE that it is in liquid form!!!) or use chemical and then try to maintain on your wormer?  Used Ivermectin in April.  UGH, this is agonizing.  He does experience some stress colic when the season changes summer to fall, don't want his immune system compromised heading into fall.  

Thank you for your help.

 REALLY appreciate it.

Sheryl D.

For sure read the article on salt and minerals as I would be real surprised if our RED CAL didn't  help prevent the colic issues in the future. I would suggest our Worm check paste (go to www.wormcheck.com for info on worming in general). After using I would recheck in 3 weeks the fecal. If by chance is still positive give 3 days in a row. If then still positive 3 weeks late I would really suggest focusing on supporting the immune system with our Health Check supplement. I really suggest the Red Cal free-choice asap. The colic you mention is a "tell tale" sign. See the article "Mineral Wise, Salt Poor" linked to from the What To Feed Your Horse website as well as our Magalog also the multiple audios and videos in the library section and linked to throughout the website. Links Below.

Thanks For Asking!

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What To Feed Your Horse?
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Dr. Dan's Library:
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Deanna asks about her 2 horses going “natural”…

Dr. Dan,

I recently was told about your products from my friend and owner of my boarding facility.  I am very interested in switching over to your products but of course, each horse has different needs and I could use your help developing a "change over" plan.    

Horse#1 – Jupiter – 8y/o appaloosa gelding used for trail riding.  He tends to be a bit on the fluffy side but is very muscular.  He recently had some shoulder lameness and we put him on adaquan injections.  Other feed and supplements are, 10% sweet feed and alpha & oat pellets (a mix of the two), strongid daily, & accel minerals.  

Horse#2 – Spirit – 5y/o TWH palomino gelding with 4 white feet used for trail riding and hopefully fox hunting.  I've only had him 2 months so we are still getting to know each other.  He was quite thin when we got him. His feed and supplements are, 10% sweet feed and alpha & oat pellets (a mix of the two), strongid daily, accel minerals and Amplify which is working well in putting some weight on him.  

Thank you for taking the time to help me.  I look forward to your reply.  

Sincerely, Deanna B.

Good News! It s an easy switch for all.

Just gradually switch from the same volume of commercial feed now feeding to the same volume of oats (whole). Take a few days to do so.

All horses will get Just Add Oats- 1 scoop per 1000 lbs or so and Weight Check Oil (one scoop or 2 oz is maintenance.. Give more to help put weight ..up to 8 oz daily but probably 4 to 6 will do great… This is good healthy fat not "junk fat" like so many products have).

All the horses need Red Cal provided "free-choice" (probably not the hi-mag version since no cresty necks or excessive overweight issues) For the horse on adequan— add for support our Joint Check supplement for support.

I would stop all other supplements,minerals and feed and for sure the daily wormer (go to www.wormcheck.com for info on that). Spirit could get the health check instead of the joint check (the joint check however already has health check in it plus all the joint ingredients and the health check does cost less).

Enjoy the new horses!!! 

Thanks for asking!

Debbie with questions about goat feeding and worming…

I am getting 2 4 week old Nigerian Dwarf goats and would like to know what to feed them and what supplement they might need.  I also want to know what you recommend for worming them and if they NEED shots?  I have never had goats before.  I have 2 horses on your basic feeding program and bug check.  I recall reading somewhere that goats can also use the red-cal.  Any info would be helpful.

Red cal for sure free choice, worm check if needed. I would probably just get a feed balanced for goats. Our just add oats has too much copper so don’t use it unless you just use a pinch with oats. Our weight oil would be fine (tea soon or so daily). And our bug Check is great too.  Hope this helps.

Dr Dan,
Thanks for the info.  One more question on the worming. I was told that goats need vigourous worming. You recommended worm check "if needed".  Should I be doing fecal exams on the goats as well as my horses?  Worm check would be the only sufficient wormer required?  Now when using the worm check, how much of it do you use for a goat? They are small Nigerian Dwarf goats. I do use the Bug Check for my horses and would like to know a quantity for the goats to feed daily.

One last question, do you have to give any shots to goats?

Debbie H.

Fecals- YES on all species. Amount of Worm Check should be 1/4 tube but you still need fecals and I suggest monthly until you know that they are consistently negative or low amounts. I don’t give vaccinations to any species unless required by law period so you would need to ask someone else as to what is "ordinary". thanks for asking! As for amount of Bug Check i would give as much as it takes to help control.. any amount is only healthy. I would start with 1/4 oz or so daily and work up as needed. i would for sure add RED CAL to the routine… "free choice" . Thanks for asking Debbie!

Re-Launching “Worm Check DotCom”

A few months ago we launched WormCheck.com as a "sister site" to our AskDrDan.com question/answer site and this week we are excited to be re-launching the site with some new features!

Naturally…
The new site is devoted entirely to all things deworming, fecal exams, parasites etc. an area that we have have had strong opinions on for several years regardless of who’s (been) onboard with us then, now or not ever!


We have already linked up important audios and documents that you’ll want to review and share with others. You’ll also found one of my "archived" videos from a few years back that I think you’ll enjoy.

Click To Go- WormCheck.comThere is also a link to an online form to use so that you can ASK your questions that deal specifically with your  deworming/fecal/parasite concerns. We are here to help- as always!

I know you’ll want to bookmark this site along with our others sites and I hope you find it one you’ll want to review over and over. And be sure to play the "WormShot" game while you’re there!

Visit: www.WormCheck.com Today

Thank You!

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New “Live” Audio from Equine Affaire- “To Be Dewormed or Not To Be”

Here’s the audio recording from a live presentation I did
at the Equine Affaire in Pomona California, February, 2010.

It’s loaded with information about deworming, fecal exams and
so much more in regards to the health of today’s horses.

I might also add that there has been lots of "on target" information
released in other publications just in the past month.

This leads me to only add…

"Finally leading parasitoligists are calling for
fecal exams too instead of "just deworming",
something I’ve said for over a decade.

Simply click the play arrow on the player below or
optionally download the MP3 file to your
computer or audio device:


MP3 File



Also, visit www.WormCheck.com for companion articles,
postings and information.

Especially be sure to read the article here:
http://wormcheck.com/?p=8
 

De-Worming from the Equine Affaire!

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Last week I shared with you one of the audio recordings from my many presentations I was asked to give at the recent November Equine Affaire.

This week’s audio features information I shared about "De- Worming" that I know you’ll benefit from hearing. use the links below and if you missed last weeks, I have also included them in this email along with some other De-Worming information from our archives and library…

De-Worming:
 
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Shared Last Week… Information You Won’t Hear Anywhere Else!

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VIDEO!

Use the button link below to watch Dr. Dan on a show segment on the subject of
"De-Worming Your Horse"

   

"OH CRAP!" is the title an interview that I conducted with Equine Wellness magazine. In it, we get "up close and personal" with your horse’s manure and discuss the importance and role that regular fecal exams play in the implementation of a natural horse care regimen.

To access "OH CRAP!" now- Click Here or http://askdrdan.com/OhCRAP


TO BE "dewormed" OR NOT TO BE "dewormed" – THAT IS THE QUESTION!

Click Here for the article or use this link: http://wormcheck.com/?p=8


"I’m giving RED-CAL" to my horse friends this Christmas!"
Sylvia M.Red Cal Stocking Stuffer :-)

Red Cal, "How You Feed It" and "What about the effects of bad weather"…

The answer is simple— All they want all the time! If they’re eating a bunch- it’s because they need it and it will eventually balance out.

Just hang a bucket on a fence post and make sure an inch or so is always in the bottom. You never have to wash the bucket. Just add some fresh Red Cal to the bucket. You should know that rain weather doesn’t even hurt. It actually makes it stick to the bottom of the bucket like a soft clay that they can still get a big bite of whenever they wish.
 

… He really went for the Red Cal, had a white nose everyday for awhile. But what a difference in his personality, no more pacing while eating, no more rubbing teeth, and although he has always been loving he is now trusting also ( if that makes sense). Thank You so much, and God Bless You.
Nickie D.

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Nicky asked about parasite exam results…

Would you say that your natural dewormer is "strong" enough to deal w some of these rescue horse cases (like from the strongyle-positive horse sampled recently), where a huge parasite load is expected? 

The last rescue horse I had was dewormed (at vet’s suggestion) w 5-day Panacur Power Pack (slow release), followed a month later by a large dose of Zimectrin Gold (deals w tapeworms, also). 

At that point, three large blood-red large strongyle larvae dropped out of his butt, looking so healthy I thought they were alive (til I prodded them, and no response). 

It took ALL THAT CHEMICAL WORMER to get those things out of him.  Is it your opinion or experience that continued doses of the natural wormer could do the same? 

I used to use Diatemaceous Earth on all mine on a daily basis, but I think the large Strongyles ate holes in the rescue horse’s gut, because if I give him probiotics or DE or anything grainy, he explodes w diarrhea.  A lot of damage already. 

No pressure to respond to this, I know you’re busy  and this is more of an ad-lib discussion. 

Best regards, Nicky


Just understand that Chemical dewormers in my opinion are poison.

Just enough to kill the worms but not the horse.

They do negatively affect the immune system and certainly help develop these "resistant" strains… all that said we have had good results with all situations. The key is to keep rechecking at 3 week intervals to be sure. I agree that DE alone is useless, it helps but not enough. our worm check product is far from just DE though.

Ultimately this has to be your decision. We have thousands using but no clinical studies to back up anything. (wish we could but the expense is unbearable for something un patentable) so…..also see the site called www.wormcheck.com

Thanks for asking!

 

Worming Foals…

I have two large foals that are about 7 and 7 1/2 weeks old.

I have purchased your natural wormer for the mares and have been using it for years.  How should I worm the foals? Is the natural wormer ok for them does it include tape worms and how much would I give them.  I can measure them for their weight of course. Or should I be using something else or a combination of something else.

How often should I be worming them?

Thank you,

Janice

fecals fecal fecals… regardless of what you use. (monthly for foals) 1/2 tube for the foals. any amount is only healthy regardless.

Please do go to www.wormcheck.com and read the article I did for wellness magazine called “Oh Crap.

Find it at http://wormcheck.com/?p=3

It should answer even more questions that may arise.

More about Deworming…

If you missed it…

“OH CRAP!” is the title of the recent interview
that I conducted with Equine Wellness magazine and I appreciate
the inclusion of the article in their new March/April edition.

In it, we get “up close and personal” with your horse’s manure
and discuss the importance and role that regular fecal exams
play in the implementation of a natural horse care regimen.

To access “OH CRAP!” now-

Click Here
or
http://askdrdan.com/OhCRAP


More AUDIO and VIDEO…

A “LIVE” Deworming audio discussion at an expo
event can be accessed to online by
clicking
here
or using this link:

http://www.audioacrobat.com/play/WJJ4zc6P

From a HorseCity.com’s “At The
Clinic” aired on RFD-TV is an episode titled, “Today’s
Deworming- Looming Disaster”

View the video by

clicking here
or using this link:

http://audio-video-online.net/NPV/ShowSegment4.wmv


More in print…

TO BE “dewormed” OR
NOT TO BE “dewormed” – THAT IS THE QUESTION!

Click Here
for This article or use this link:

http://wormcheck.com/?p=8



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We have also published online a new
informational discussion blog dealing with worm and fecal issues
at www.WormCheck.com

I’m excited that my wife Cheryl will be providing much of the
content for this site. Many of you have met her online and
offline and have relied on her for advice in this “arena”. This
will be a very beneficial addition for all of us and will
compliment our already
AskDrDan.com
blog very well.


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Oh CRAP!

A question and answer session has been published in the recent issue of Equine Wellness magazine in which we get “up close and personal” with your horse’s manure and learn more about the importance of regular fecal tests with your natural horse care regimen.

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