? about my horse with fungus on his back…

Dr Dan,

I have a 24 year old horse who gets fungus on his back,and I cant get rid of it.  I have tried everything.

The vet just told me to use fungus shampoo and it is not working. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Heather

Never ever “fungus” shampoo for sure…
They realy only make matters worse. Please look over the first article in the magazine, as well as, see and listen to the audio on the what to feed your horse website.
In my opinion fungi are NOT the problem even if present. The immune system not functioning well is. AND often the body is just trying to get rid of “something” drugs, chemicals. etc. the key is helping the body. topicals don’t help, only interfere (though our Grape balm is all natural and chemical and hasn’t appeared to hinder only help over the last thousand or so cases discussed and seen)
I suggest a different feeding approach  (see the website below) and support for the immune system (Aller Check) and discharge (Health Check)  topically our Grape Balm though the key is helping the inside so that outside of the body gets better.
Thanks for asking Heather

“Just Add Oats” for older horse?

Dr. Dan, i was just wondering if it would be okay to feed the Just Add Oats and literally just oats for a 26 year old OTTB?

He is currently eating a lot of processed senior feed and i want him to have something better. I was just wondering if you would advise this.

My farrier said that just feeding oats would be too high in starch.

Thank you! Havalyn

Oats are GREAT for any horse.

They do need the Just add Oats and the Weight check supplements to make them complete. Starch is Not an issue.

Please tell your farrier too, that oats are the only grain digested in the hind gut which is great. I also suggest Red Cal free choice all they can eat.

Please see the article on feeding oats in the magazine and the article on salt and minerals. The website what to feed your horse will explain more and even has an audio to listen to or download on the subject.

Thanks For Asking!

www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com

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? about our Fatty acid supplements

I wish you had fat supplements for equines that wasn’t in a liquid form! Thanks for everything else! :)

Carol

I would NEVER use any fat supplement that was not liquid. They go rancid way to fast. Plus our oils still have all the “goodie” still in them that are the most important part.

I know they can be inconvenient BUT….Bad fats are worse than no fats. See the article on fats in the magazine!

Suggestions for equine sarcoid? (x2)

Good afternoon Dr. Dan -

My 19 year old OTTB has a sarcoid on his ear which I have had cryogenically operated on for two different rounds in the past 2 years.

I prefer this method as it is more likely to encourage his immune system to develop the antibodies and fight it off in addition to the freezing and sluffing.

Unfortunately this method has not yet gotten rid of it entirely.  We have done two treatments both rounds.  I am getting ready to call my vet and have him come out and do a third treatment for this round.  Is there anything that you would suggest applying to the sarcoid that will assist in getting rid of it?

I have heard that there are topicals that work relatively well.

Thank you,  Ashlea and Splash

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HI THERE,  NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR ME. MY HORSE A SMALL SARCOID , I PUT TEE TREE OIL ON, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONE , BUT ITS BACK. I DONT KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM OR HOW TO REALLY TREAT IT AND ARE CANCEROUS. DO YOU DEAL WITH THESE , IS THERE SOMETHING MY HORSE SHOULD BE FED.

SANDY

Topically our Grape Balm and as a supplement I would really suggest our Aller Check.

This product really supports the immune system.

Listen to the audio on what to feed your horse on the websites also.
(www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com)

Thanks for asking

Hamilton The Calf…

Hi… We just rescued a little bull calf…we would like to use your products on him…bug check, red cal, worm check (i’ve already used Marigold pocket healer on him-we use that for everything and everybody…it is amazing!!!)…

any suggestions as to how? or even if we can? i am assuming if they are safe for horses they will be safe for him too…he will never be used for human consumption but i don’t want to use anything on him that will hurt him, either…thanks for your help…looking forward to your response…

Joy

Hello Joy… that’s great!
The Joint Check and the Critical Care shouldn’t be used but all else are good. Just give according to weight. Free choice with the RED CAL too. even the Just Add oats and oil are fine.

Go Hamilton!

My poodle… psuedomyotonia?

My apricot miniature female poodle of 12 years has been diagnosed with psuedomyotonia, and cushings disease.  Any thoughts on treatment you might recommend.
Janet

Essentially, Pseudomyotonia is a rare myopathy (muscle disease) that occurs in Cushing’s disease is characterized by persistent muscle contraction after a voluntary effort ends. it could be genetic but personally I suspect not. I suspect it is more environmental since it is occurs with hyper adrenal glands (cushings). Hypothyroidism is generally first noticed too.

Any time the thyroid is involved I seriously consider environmental involvement. Specifically diet (potential source of hydrogenated fats, sugars etc) , vaccines (potential source of heavy metals), etc.

Therefore,  I would personally quickly turn to natural diets (I like Innova brand all-Natural) and I would only vaccinate if required by law.

For support I would consider our Omega Coat check to flush the bad fats out of the system and to provide a great source of fatty acids. I would also consider our Joint Check for pets (see the magazine for ingredients. there is really nothing like it) I suggest this for several reason, first often joints become weakened with the syndrome and ligaments may break. JC may help provide support there plus muscle, ligaments, tissue in general can all benefit from the glucosamine and other ingredients. For the neurological support again the Omega Coat Check (nerves are mostly fat and we need to flush the potential bad fats out) and Also consider a human product of ours called REDOXX. One capsule a day could provide some great liver support, always needed in any situation.

White Line Disease?

Dr Dan:

Late last year my 20 yr. old Thoroughbred started showing signs of stretching of the water line in his feet and now he has separation of the hoof wall all the way around in all four feet.  It has now started in my 8 yr. old Quarter Horse who has always had great feet (stretching started in the Spring and separation is now beginning).  The TB developed a fever (103.5 off and on for 4-5 days) in mid May.  Initially we treated for colic; but when the fever persisted we treated with antibiotics.  Blood work showed high levels of liver enzymes (AST = 416, GTT = 37, B..Rubin = 7.1, also, anemia  = 28.8, white blood normal, lymphosite = low, & vibremigut (sp?) = low normal).  My local vet’s diagnosis was “fever of unknown origin.”  When the antibiotics took care of the fever and TB appeared normal we did not persue further.  Next option would have been a 3 hour trip to U. FL. Vet School.  I have been feeding steamed crimped oats for several years because the TB seemed to pass most of the whole oats.  In January of this year I began feeding Just Add Oats 2X, H2Oil, and Red Cal(although they do not seem to be interested in the Red Cal much anymore).  Both horses have 24 hr. turnout with shelter access.  I also feed 1-2 flakes of perenial peanut hay per horse twice a day.  I have been treating their feet topically with Life Data Lab’s hoof disenfectant.  Daily for the first two weeks and every 2-3 days for the last week.  I have read some of the Q & A’s on your site and plan to order the Grape Balm Hoof Healer (I’m almost out of the disenfectant), and the Hoof Check supplement.

Do I also need Health or Joint Check (the TB is already getting GLC 5500 and MSM for arthritis)?  I would order the Weight Check; but I have just received 5 gal. of the H2Oil.

Also, should I do another blood panel and the TB and one on the QH?  Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you, Cheryl

Cheryl,

Sounds rather bad indeed. U are on the right track with the grape balm hoof healer instead of the topical chemical now using and the hoof check will help the hoof grow faster. You wouldn’t need the joint product or msm with the joint check (although this has no msm it does have better sources of sulfur plus a lot more nutrients).

I suspect this is just really going to take some time for sure. Time for the hoofs to grow entirely back out.

I would really find something other than peanut hay. Was to much potential for junk in it and we want to help the body get rid of all such and not put more back in.  Bottom line is we want to help the body to discharge whatever and grow the hoof back asap. Keep up the free choice red cal but I would also put a tablespoon daily onto the feed.

Hope this all helps. Hang in there sounds like it will be a long road but I have seen it before. It just takes time!! There is an audio in the library section as well on thrush and white line.
(www.DrDanLibrary.com)

Clover and Digging?

Hi Dr. Dan,
I have 4  Rocky mares and I’ve met you before but you don’t know me.

I have been using your products for years, but I’m having 2 problems this summer.  1) My pastures grew a lot of white clover this spring.  Since then, if the horses are on the pasture long they drool and spew water.  I tried taking them off, feeding hay,(they would stop drooling)  then back on pasture.  My vet said they would probably build up immunity if left on, but so far they still drool heavily.  2) Today I noticed them digging up the grass in the pasture. There is plenty of grass to eat, but they are digging to the dirt, as if searching for something underneath.  I feed 1 scoop of Red Cal daily, along with 1 scoop of your H2oil, fed with about 4 oz. of plain oats.  They are easy keepers and don’t need extra calories. This summer I have also given them 2 oz. of Apple Cider vinegar. I have white salt licks available as “pacifiers”.  I know you say to feed RedCal free choice, but if my girls are bored they will eat just for something to do I do believe!

I can’t afford to buy more Red Cal than they need.  I could go to 2 scoops a day if you think that is the problem.  They range in weight from about 850-950lbs, ages 6-14.  Thanks!  Pat H.

Thanks for asking!

As for the clover, honestly there is not much you can do. The good thing is that I have never seen a problem other than the drooling itself.

As for the digging, probably an easy fix. THROW away the blocks.  DO offer the Red Cal free choice. Never letting them be without will prevent many issues. They will not eat it unless they need it. If they do they are missing something. .

Also add the Just add Oats.  See the website below called what to feed your horse. I am not fond of apple cider.  Just my opinion that it could effect gut pH.

The Red cal “free choice” is the single most healthy thing you can do. Thanks again for asking!

Arthritic Older Horse?

Dear Dr. Dan:  I am taking care of my neighbor’s horse, Bart, this summer.  He is in his 20′s and is about 17 hands.  He suffers from arthritis and right now is in pain.  My neighbor does not give him anything to respond to his condition and I would like to get your recommendations as to how to make Bart more comfortable.  He is obviously having trouble moving at all right now.  I have been given permission to call the Vet for now but I am hoping that she may consider your recommendations and we can help Bart to be a happier horse.  Thank you. Vicki J.

Though I can’t say that we have anything specifically for arthritis, I would suggest you consider our Joint Check which really provides support in many ways to those joints. I am sure you will be pleased. It is what I give my older horse and quite honestly there is not any other product I have seen that has such ingredients for this support. Just follow label instructions. Product info is in the magazine below as well. http://www.DrDanMag.com

Question about “Hi-Mag” Red Cal


I was wondering if you can give the complete ingredient breakdown of this product including the extra Mag that has been added.

It is identical to regular Red Cal with 6 percent added magnesium. It is fed free choice like regular Red Cal. It is magnesium oxide. Typically with minerals, oxides are not the best but with magnesium it is.

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They are located in my part of the country and basically in my own back door.

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I invite you to tour their informative site and choose a sampling of their great products today! Use the banner link located on the right-side side of the page or this link: http://tinyurl.com/mtbbgo

Thanks for letting me share!

From Greg W. about a 3 month old foal…

Dr. Dan I have a customer that has a 3 month old Rocky Mountain Foal who was born with all his legs very straight and is at the present time spending a lot of his time laying in the pasture.

He does get up and move around and is nursing and eating fine, but when he now walks he is up on his toes on all four feet and seems to be showing that his tendons are very tight and not allowing his feet to straighten out so that he can walk normally what should I be giving this person to give to this little guy that may help him, I realize that this may be irreparable but he is such a well bred little colt that I want to try anything possible, any insight would be greatly appreciated

Thank you so much.

I would for sure get the baby and mom on RED CAL, Just Add Oats and
also Joint Check. JC has some great natural anti-inflammatory benefits
and make just make a difference. please keep me informed. (pictures

maybe) these are very tough indeed. I hope the best for them through this.

Dr. Dan thank you so much for getting back to me so promptly I am taking some of my Red Cal to them now and will be placing order for the joint check, if the results are the same with this little guy as they have been with our own horses I believe that we will see a difference with this one also.
It is great to be associated with a company that is interested in the well being of our friends (our horses) and in ourselves.  I will get some pictures of this colt now and will update pictures as to his condition as he is given the minerals for your benefit  Thanks again  Greg W.

Jack Russell… aural hematoma?

Hi Dr. Dan

Our 10 year old Jack Russell has developed an aural hematoma on her ear. The vet…whom I am not really very trusting of but have no other better option here where we live, said that I MUST have it surgically taken care of as soon as possible.

Another vet said several years ago that I MUST surgically remove the “tumor” on her leg, but after applying Grape Balm and giving her Joint Check for two weeks (at your suggestion) the thing dried up and fell off!

Hence my hesitance to fork over hundreds of dollars for surgery!!

Will this hematoma re-absorb on it’s own? Is there something else we should do? My husband is keeping the ear canal clean and we have put some grape balm in her ear as well. (I am assuming there is some infection in her ear.) Is surgery the only option?

We believe that this began as a result of her allergies. She has some sort of skin allergy and we have not been able to alleviate and the poor thing just scratches and knaws herself crazy. She has a slight heart murmur so they cannot give her a steroid shot (which is the only thing that would help her in the past). With all the scratching we think she burst the blood vessel in her ear that way.

Any imput you can give would be MOST appreciated!!!

Thank you so much~ Shelley S. in St. Augustine Florida

They will absorb BUT this will also shrivel the ear in every case I have seen.

You can put our Marigold in the ear to help with the internal problem. As for the allergy support.

I would suggest our Aller Check for pets, our omega coat check oil supplement  and our bug Check. I would also suggest Innova brand food (the best I have found anyway).

Usually fleas are related in allergies that have required steroids. Bug check supplement will help as will shoo flea powder but even they are not 100 percent.

Thanks for sharing and for asking!

Exactly why our Red-Cal works!!!

Until the minerals are balanced nothing else matters!   Salt and mineral blocks definitely, and even typical commercial feeds our horses get today, simply won’t provide the vitamins, minerals etc. needed.

I have been saying this for years! Proof of the statement is in the thousands upon thousands of horses that have seen the benefits of proper supplementation including a “free choice, all the time, never be without” offering of salt and minerals called RED CAL. And the thousands of people that take Redoxx daily.   Horses, as well as cattle simply can get what they need from a block of any kind. The feed that horses and pets are given is often pelleted or extruded. This processing almost always includes high heat and even worse hydrogenated fats. These bad fats are killing us and in my opinion, our horses too. (fat article link) The food we eat is processed for the convenience of the “food in a box” suppliers. And, all animal feed and most people food is grown in nutrient deficient, heavily potassium and nitrogen fertilized  soil. (LINK TO see the report proving this written in 1933)  Finally, with regards to horses, unless each horse is getting the exact amount of feed that is stated on the bag for the body weight, common sense tells us that the horse is either getting too much or too little of the minerals, vitamins, fat, enzymes or whatever else that the feed was fortified with. (http://www.WhatToFeedYourHorse.com)
Diets for people, pets and horses must be supplemented if all are to remain healthy. The foundation of the food pyramid is minerals including salt! Whoa Doc! Salt for people too? You say, “I have heard all my life that salt is bad for people, especially those with high blood pressure” What a lie! We have to have salt! It just has to be good salt… not, kiln dried, bleached chemical sodium chloride that is in our food and our animals. History tells us we have to have it; the media and current medical establishment tells we shouldn’t. AND they are correct if you are talking about the typical chemically processed  salt today.  BUT a  natural source of salt can make all the difference for good health. Consider for a second, how important salt has been throughout history. Consider in the past just how many wars have been fought over salt.. plain old ordinary salt, Mother Nature’s salt and minerals! (uncivilized health link) If you are a hunter, or a wildlife enthusiast of any kind, you understand the importance of a “salt lick”. Animals will seek it out and they have to have it and so do we….. if we want to remain healthy! Salt and minerals are what keeps the “batteries of life” charged”.

This why I suggest- RED CAL “Mother Nature’s Minerals and Natural Salt” for all Animals and our REDOXX for all people.

Below is a research article done by Dr Swerczek, DVM, PHD who is probably the leading Equine Pathologist in the country. Being Located in Kentucky he has seen it all!

Below is a personal note he just sent me along with the article and I’ll be adding more info later so stay tuned…

Dan,
The attached article is my latest findings on the importance of sodium in the diet of herbivores, including horses.  I originally thought that only high potassium was the cause of the mineral imbalances.  High potassium  is involved, but I have found that the nitrate ion is contributing to the mineral imbalance.  I have found that the syndromes in cattle and horses can be eliminated with adequate sodium in the diet.  The sodium neutralizes the excessive nitrate by eliminating it from the body in the urine and/or feces.  If there is a deficiency in sodium, herbivores utilize magnesium and calcium cations to rid the body of excessive nitrate, and then an acute  hypomagnesemia  and hypocalcemia (grass tetany syndome) will occur. (This occurs naturally in cattle after frost and freezes to lush pastures in the spring and fall. After a freeze there is a spike in potassium nitrate in the forages……..
Dr. Swerczek

Nitrate Toxicity and Sodium Deficiency Associated with Hypomagnesemia, Hypocalcemia and the Grass tetany Syndrome in Herbivores.

T.W. Swerczek, DVM, PhD.

The factors inducing the grass tetany syndrome have been a mystery to scientists since the syndrome was first described in the 1930. It is hypothesized that important factors for the pathogenesis of the grass tetany syndrome are nitrate toxicity and a dietary sodium deficiency which induces an electrolyte and mineral imbalance. The grass tetany syndrome is associated with a deficiency of magnesium ( hypomagnesemia), and a coexisting calcium deficiency (hypocalcemia), and sodium deficiency (hyponatremia) and an excess of potassium (hyperkalemia) in the blood of affected animals.

Grass tetany affects cattle and other herbivores that are high producing and being fed a ration excessive in protein which includes non-protein nitrogenous compounds. A common factor is excessive nitrogen fertilization of pastures. Yet, the mechanism of action by which excessive nitrogen or nitrogenous compounds predispose cattle to grass tetany has not been adequately investigated. The following discussion will disclose the current important scientific literature and the author’s  clinical and pathological experience with the grass tetany syndrome in herbivores. During the last decade the unprecedented late frosts and freezes to lush pasture forages provided important clues to the current knowledge on the grass tetany syndrome as well as other disorders associated with nitrate toxicity in ruminant and non-ruminant herbivores.

In 1930, the original scientific  report  on the pathogenesis of grass tetany, Sjollema states that grass staggers (tetany) occurs most frequently during  springs when there is a superabundance of young, rank, quick-growing grasses rich in proteins. He also notes that if occurs during the winter when feed is excessive in protein. In some herds , cattle  manifest pica suggesting that some necessary ingredient is lacking in the fodder. He also observed animals grazing in strongly manured pastures stripped all trees within their reach of herbage until they were barren.  Interestingly, he also found that the sodium-content in the blood was subject to fluctuations, probably greater than in normal animals. 8 It is likely that the pica cattle were experiencing was due to a sodium deficiency.

There has been very little progress in the understanding of the factors responsible for the syndrome since the original report by Sjollema.8 However, he and other early workers did observe some very important clues that were later confirmed by other workers, but these clues have not been appreciated until recently.  He observed that high nitrogenous diets and an unknown factor, which was later identified as sodium by other workers, are important in the pathogenesis of hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia in cattle.

In the 1950s Smith and Aines experimentally deprived sodium from dairy cows and induced clinical signs of grass tetany. 9 This landmark research was  confirmed by   other workers. Paterson and Crichton found that low concentrations of sodium were found in tetany-prone grass, and they prevented grass tetany by supplementing cows with sodium chloride. 7 In a field study, Butler observed an increased incidence of grass tetany at low sodium concentrations in the grass and the incidence of grass tetany disappeared at sodium concentrations above 0.2% in the grass. 3

Unfortunately, this early work on the importance of adequate sodium has been either overlooked or ignored, as the majority of mineral supplements currently used in an attempt to prevent grass tetany are deficient in sodium and excessive in magnesium.  This is causing weight loss, wasting, severe diarrhea, and reduced milk production  when fed with high protein rations.   The consequence of excessive magnesium supplementation was reported by Urdas, et. al. They reported on the importance of appropriate amounts of magnesium in rations for dairy cows, especially in rations high in protein, as excessive magnesium had drastic adverse effects on milk production and other clinical signs, including  diarrhea. 14

The  clinical signs of grass tetany or hypomagnesemia are unlikely to occur unless there is also a hypocalcemia.  In many cases the clinical signs of grass tetany and milk fever are similar, and probably the triggering mechanisms or factors inducing the syndromes are similar.   The  clinical signs are usually seen in animals in full lactation and  high producing cows.  The increase in feed and forage intake, even with adequate magnesium and calcium, may only partially compensate for loss of magnesium and calcium in the milk.  Without exception, most researchers have observed that clinical signs of grass tetany rarely occur unless affected animals are high producing and being fed a ration high, or excessive in protein which includes non-protein nitrogenous compounds. 2

Most researchers agree  that  a common factor associated grass tetany is excessive nitrogen fertilization of pastures. 1 Yet, very few have investigated why excessive nitrogen, or nitrogenous compounds predispose cattle to grass tetany.  Martens and Schweigel summarized work on excessive nitrogen as it relates to grass tetany.  These studies suggest that excessive NH+ may interfere with the absorption of magnesium from the gut, but did not offer any other explanation. 6 However, their research shows that the lack of sodium and excessive potassium seemingly also interferes with the absorption of magnesium from the gut. 5,6

Since the first report and all subsequent research on the pathogenesis of grass tetany in cattle, excess nitrogen was suggested as the primary initiating factor for inducing hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia.  Yet, the factor associated with excessive nitrogen has not been identified.    It is hypothesized that the nitrogen factor is related to the nitrate anion.  The subsequent discussion will outline the observations and findings that suggest that excessive nitrate is involved in the pathogenesis of hypomagnesemia, hypocalcemia, hyponatremia and hyperkalemia, all of which are involved in the grass tetany syndrome in cattle, and other herbivores.

Several researchers report that hypomagnesemia may occur in animals foraging on diets low in magnesium, but it may also occur when diets  have adequate magnesium in the forages or rations.  This suggests that there is some factor(s) that is either tying up the magnesium and/or chelating the magnesium making it unavailable, or causing it to be removed from the body excessively through the kidneys, mammary glands and in the feces, thus causing an acute hypomagnesemia.  This was suggested by Grunes et. al. after demonstrating that fertilization with high nitrogen appreciably increased the nitrogen in plants, thus increasing their  potential for causing  grass tetany.  In addition, they found that fertilization with broiler litter markedly increased the potassium and magnesium concentrations , as well as the ratio of K/ (Ca+Mg), which would make the forage more likely  to produce grass tetany. They also found that there was an increase in organic acids and suggested that these anionic organic acids may be chelating with magnesium and calcium creating  a hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia when forages were high in organic acids. 4 Organic acids are more likely to be excessively high in diets high in carbohydrates, but when the diets are high in protein and non-protein nitrogenous compounds, the anionic ions likely to be excessive are related to nitrate.

Numerous researchers have found that grass tetany occurs most often in older brood cows grazing lush growth of pastures in early spring, and the triggering of the grass tetany syndrome includes environmental conditions of cool, cloudy and wet weather, promoting rapid, lush growth of cool season grasses.  These environmental conditions, which also include frosts and freezes, will cause acute spikes in potassium as well as nitrate in affected growing pastures.  Analyses of these affected pastures during and after periods  of frosts and freezes revealed elevated levels of potassium and nitrate. 11 Nitrate in the form of potassium nitrate is reportedly the form which herbivores are exposed to nitrate. During  periods of stress to pastures forages, the acute spike in  potassium and  nitrate is seemingly causing an electrolyte and mineral imbalance in affected herbivores.  These imbalances, in pastures forages include an increase ratio of K/ Ca+Mg, and a deficiency in sodium.  These imbalances may not be readily apparent, unless blood samples are obtain while animals are suffering from marked clinical signs, as the body can obtain cations from tissues until they are depleted, then severe acute  clinical signs and death occur.

Since sodium aids in the prevention of hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia, and these syndrome are both associated with high producing cows on high nitrogenous rations, it was suspected that similar syndromes are occurring in other herbivores including horses where high nitrogenous diets are suspected of inducing an immune suppression, reproductive losses and other syndromes associated with a host of opportunistic diseases, likely related to increase in nitrate in the diet. 11 Also, as with cattle, adequate sodium in the diet seemingly aids in the prevention of these syndromes.  To test this hypothesis, horses were given a high protein diet with and without the addition of sodium in the diet and the levels of nitrate in the blood were analyzed.  Diets without the addition of sodium chloride caused a marked elevation of nitrate in the blood, whereas, the supplementation of sodium chloride, sodium bicarbonate, or zeolytes high in sodium, to the same high protein ration returned the nitrate levels in the blood to normal levels or levels seen in horses on low protein diets, within 24 hours after the addition of sodium to the diet. 12 These findings suggest that sodium indeed is neutralizing the nitrate in the blood, and/ or gut by excreting the excessive nitrate that is exogenously in the diet, or the nitrate that is endogenously produced by bacteria in the gut.  The excess nitrate is likely being eliminated as an anionic complex associated with the sodium by the kidneys, in the feces, or in the milk in lactating animals. The high nitrate in the milk, associated with the feeding of high protein diets in herbivores, may also affect suckling neonates with the same detrimental effects as in adults.  This explains why neonates on dams that are fed excessive proteins seemingly are affected with a multitude of opportunistic gastrointestinal diseases, including gastric ulcers and other intestinal  disorders.  Conversely, dams fed a low protein diet and adequate sodium, their neonates rarely suffer from these gastrointestinal disorders.

When there is a deficiency of calcium and sodium and  excessive potassium and nitrogen in the soil, there is likely a more dramatic spike in potassium and nitrate in plants during and after stress, like frosts and freezes, to pasture forages. If the excessive potassium and nitrate in affected forages is consumed by herbivores, it may induce a toxicity and/or mineral and electrolyte imbalances. Nitrate in the diet is utilized in protein metabolism. However, if the nitrate is excessive in ruminants, in some cases, nitrate is converted to nitrite by the gut bacteria and methemoglobinemia may occur. The majority of excessive nitrate is eliminated  through the gut and kidneys, or mammary glands in lactating herbivores.

Since cations utilized to eliminate the excessive nitrate from the body have different solubilities and affinities for nitrate, the body will utilize the cations, if available in adequate concentrations, that have the highest affinity for nitrate. Magnesium, calcium and then sodium are the most soluble and potassium the least soluble 13 , and likely the affinity of each cation for nitrate is similar to their solubility with nitrate. It is hypothesized that if there is a deficiency of sodium, and most forages and rations are deficient in sodium and excessive in potassium, and when there is a spike in nitrate, or excessive nitrate in the body, anionic nitrate is eliminated from the body as an ionic complex associated with  magnesium and calcium. If  nitrate is excessive, a hypomagnesia and/or hypocalcaemia may develop as the body is eliminating magnesium and calcium with the excessive anionic nitrate.  However, if there is adequate sodium in the diet and organs and tissues, the excessive anionic nitrate is removed by the gut, kidneys, and mammary glands in lactating animals, as a ionic complex associated with sodium, and  magnesium and calcium  are maintained at physiologic levels and  hypomagnesia and/ or hypocalcaemia will not occur. For this reason adequate levels of sodium in the body and ration will lessen or prevent the drastic effects of nitrate toxicity. Also, it explains why adequate sodium in the diet will aid in the prevention of grass tetany, which is associated with high potassium and low magnesium levels. It also explains why the grass tetany syndrome cannot be readily induced experimentally unless cattle are exposed to high nitrogen or nitrate forages, and likely low sodium diets.

Most cattlemen assume they have adequate sodium if cattle are exposed to salt blocks. Cattle and other herbivores cannot obtain enough salt or sodium from hard salt blocks during periods of acute needs.  The most dominate animals in a herd will horde a salt block and the remainder will leave without any salt.   Even the animals that horde the block cannot consume enough salt to neutralize the acute excessive dietary nitrate during periods of acute stress to forages, like frosts and freezes to high nitrogenous forages. Therefore, it is imperative to either have adequate sodium in the complete rations, which is preferable, and/ or to have readily available sodium in the form of sodium chloride, and/or sodium bicarbonate in the loose form always available, especially in times when environmental conditions are conducive for nitrate spikes in forages.   Seemingly, the excessive potassium in forages, which occurs along with the excessive nitrate after a frost and freeze, discourages animals to consume salt, or sodium compounds free choice as potassium substitutes for sodium in plants as well as in animals.  This further increases the ratio of K/Ca+Mg and for this reason sodium needs to be force fed in complete rations for optimum results.  It is important to  have fresh water available and place salt mixtures near water sources.

The livestock industry has limited  sodium chloride in mineral supplements  to encourage livestock to consume more minerals, and this has led to the over consumption of essential minerals that are normally not toxic if fed at correct levels, but can be if fed in excessive amounts.   The restriction of sodium is seemingly contributing to a multitude of syndromes, including hypomagnesemia, hypocalcemia and the downer cow syndrome as well as a host of opportunistic diseases.  Also, the restriction of sodium and the prolonged over feeding of magnesium may result in decreased performance, especially milk production in dairy cows and severe reduction of calf weights in calves on beef cows. Furthermore, the forced feeding and overfeeding minerals that are contaminated with heavy metals have drastic effects on performance due to toxicities, mineral imbalances, immune suppression, and the induction of a host of opportunistic diseases.  It is important to have adequate, pure forms of calcium and magnesium of high quality in the diet for high producing animals.  Most diets have adequate calcium and magnesium, but when there are acute spikes in anionic ions, the calcium and magnesium may be acutely depleted, resulting in hypocalcemia, hypomagnesemia and a hyponatremia.   But, adequate access to sodium appears to help alleviate these acute deficiencies during spikes in nitrate.

It is not an uncommon practice for some cattlemen to either intentionally or unintentionally allow cattle to go without salt. The practice is sometimes used to allow the easily gathering of cattle that are salt starved.  If there is a spike in potassium and nitrate due to adverse environmental conditions while cattle are deprived of salt, cattle are often found dead, or suffering from a host of metabolic and opportunistic diseases. Seemingly, cattlemen with the healthiest cattle are very aware of the need for cattle to have unlimited access to loose salt and/ or loose trace mineralized salt at all times.  These same cattlemen have  observed that if cattle are without salt, even for short periods of time, some may be found dead, or suffering from clinical signs of grass tetany, especially after periods of severe environmental stress, like frosts or freezes to lush pastures containing legumes. 10

According to the scientific literature, nitrate is relatively non toxic, unless the excessive nitrate is converted to nitrite by bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract. This may lead to methemoglobinemia and anoxia in affected animals. However, another form of nitrate toxicity that is likely more common and more detrimental, and previously overlooked may occur when the nitrate depletes essential cations in an attempt to maintain  critical ionic balances. The excessive nitrate anions are excreted along with cations  to maintain a critical ionic balance.  This may result in mineral and electrolyte imbalances that may initiate a host of metabolic diseases  in ruminants, as well as monogastric animals, including horses.  This explains why cattle, and other ruminants, and horses appear to be suffering from a host of metabolic disorders when exposed to forages and diets high in protein, non-protein nitrogenous compounds and nitrate.   The nitrate anion per se may not be that toxic in cattle and horses, but indirectly it appears to be inducing mineral, electrolyte and ionic imbalances, and secondary immune suppression associated with these disorders.  Sodium chloride, sodium bicarbonate, and high sodium zeolite compounds appear to neutralize the toxic effects of excessive nitrogenous diets, including nitrate toxicity.

Nitrate toxicity is difficult to evaluate and it is imperative to consider nitrate levels in forages and well as in the blood and biological fluids of affected animals.    Nitrate levels in the blood are difficult to interpret as both the amount and the duration of exposure need to be considered.  The excessive nitrate in the blood is eliminated by excretion with essential cations, thus giving the false impression that nitrate toxicity did not occur as the nitrate level in the blood may  appear to be too low to be significant.  However, the excessive nitrate may have been previously excreted along with essential cations inducing imbalances which are manifested clinically as hypocalcemia, hypomagnesemia, hyponatremia, and often a hyperkalemia.    Nitrate toxicity, that may have induced these disorders, may not be apparent when blood or biological fluids are analyzed.    Also, nitrate toxicity may be overlooked by only analyzing forages for nitrate levels. The over feeding of protein and non-protein nitrogenous compounds may lead to nitrate toxicity by the endogenously production of nitrate by the bacteria of the gut.   This too may induce mineral and electrolyte imbalances, and a host of opportunistic diseases that have been confusing to the livestock industry because the primary cause, nitrate toxicity is not apparent and overlooked.

Cattle and horses with apparent nitrate toxicity, and cattle with clinical signs of grass tetany, will have elevated levels of aldosterone suggesting a sodium deficiency, yet the blood levels of sodium may be in the low normal range, suggesting that a sodium deficiency is not present, but it drops below normal levels shortly before death. Unless blood samples are obtained shortly before death, the severe sodium deficiency may not be apparent.   Aldosterone is a steroid hormone belonging to the mineralocorticoid family that is produced by the adrenal gland and acts to conserve sodium and secrete potassium, and increase blood pressure.  The elevated aldosterone  indicates that the system is attempting to conserve sodium, which is deficient, and  substituting  potassium, which is excessive, for sodium.  While the system is sparing sodium, likely calcium and magnesium is being utilized to eliminate the excessive nitrate, thus creating hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia. Therefore, aldosterone levels may be the best indicator of ionic imbalances induced by the excessive nitrate anion.

In summary, hypomagnesemia and hypocalcemia are more likely to occur in high producing animals that are fed  diets high or excessive in  protein, and non-protein nitrogenous compounds, including nitrate.   When these components of the diets are high, anionic imbalances due to nitrate are occur in forages as exogenous sources, but they are further produced  endogenously by the bacteria of the gut of affected animals.  When this occurs, the excessive anionic ions need to be neutralized by cations and this causes a “washing out” effect of essential cations including calcium, magnesium and sodium in the urine, feces and milk, and then  hypocalcemia, hypomagnesemia and hyponatremia   occur.   Even when these cations are at recommended levels  in the diet, they may not be adequate and become acutely depleted during periods of environmental stresses.    A simple prophylaxis is not to overfeed protein to herbivores, but this is not always practical when producers are striving for maximum production.   When there are severe environmental stresses like frosts and freezes to lush forages, especially forages containing legumes, cationic and anionic imbalances  in affected forages are further exacerbated.   However, the over feeding of protein  can be somewhat alleviated by feeding adequate calcium, magnesium and sodium preferably in complete rations, but also they should be available free choice if affected animals desire and need more to neutralize the anionic excesses.  Calcium and sodium if fed at optimum concentrations are non toxic, but magnesium if fed at high levels for prolonged periods, may be toxic and may result in chronic wasting, reduced milk production and diarrhea.  Seemingly, the feeding of adequate levels of magnesium and increased levels of calcium and sodium during period of environmental stress will aid in the prevention of grass tetany that is induced by acute anionic imbalances due to nitrate in high producing animals.

It is apparent that nitrate toxicity in herbivores is much more prevalent than previously reported. A well documented form of nitrate toxicity occurs in ruminants when nitrate is converted to nitrite by the microflora of the gastrointestinal tract and then the nitrite induces a methemoglobinemia and anoxia. However, It is hypothesized that a much more common mode of nitrate toxicity, and previously not recognized, is when nitrate toxicity induces a severe electrolyte and mineral imbalance in ruminant and non-ruminant herbivores. This form of nitrate toxicity is an important factor in the pathogenesis of the grass tetany syndrome and likely other syndromes in herbivores, including reproductive disorders in all herbivores, including horses. Seemingly, adequate dietary sodium not only protects against nitrate toxicity, but also aids in the prevention of the grass tetany syndrome in herbivores, and other metabolic and reproductive disorders induced by nitrate in herbivores.

References:

1.  Bartlett, S. et. al.: The Influence of Fertilizer Treatment of Grassland on the Incidence of Hypomagnesaemia in Milking Cows. Brit. Vet. J. (1954)110:3-19.

2.  Burns, K.N. and Allcroft, R.: Hypomagnesaemia Tetany in Cattle. I. Incidence, aetiology, diagnosis and treatment.  Br. Vet. J. (1967)123.340-347.

3.  Butler, E.J.: The Mineral Element Content of Spring Pasture in Relation to the Occurrence of Grass Tetany and Hypomagnesaemia in Dairy Cows. J. Agric Soc (1963)60:329.

4.  Grunes, D.L. et.al.: Effect of Broiler Litter and Nitrogen Fertilizer on the Grass Tetany Potential of Tall Fescue. 1974, Agron. Abstr. Am. Soc. Agron., Madison,                                                                                                  Wisconsin. p. 139.

5.  Martens, H.: Outstanding Salt Article.  Beef Magazine, August, 2003

6.  Martens, H. and Schweigel, M.: Pathophysiology of Grass Tetany and  Other Hypomagnesemias. In Veterinary Clinics of North America: Food Animal Practice.                                     Vol 16, No. 2, July 2000.pp 339-368.

7.  Paterson, R. and Crichton  C.H:  Grass Staggers in Large Scale Dairing on Grass. Journal of the British Grassland Society (1960)15:100.

8.  Sjollema, B.: On the Nature and Therapy of Grass Staggers. The Veterinary Record.(1930), Vol 10, pp. 425-430.

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10. Swerczek, T.W.: Don’t Short Salt. Beef Magazine, June, 2003. P.14

11.  Swerczek, T.W. et. al.: Mare Reproductive Loss Syndrome: A Forage Induced Electrolyte and Mineral Imbalance. Kentucky Association Equine Practitioners, Emerging Disease Seminar. March 7, 2002. Lexington, KY.

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This paper was presented at the Annual Growers Nutritional Minerals Meeting, Milan, Ohio, December, 4, 2007.  Dr. Swerczek’s address is 664 Providence Road, Lexington, KY. 40502.

Head Shaking?

I was wondering if you had any ideas why my horse shakes her head while I ride her. I did hear there is a headshaking syndrome.
Jan

Before I went there I would have her teeth checked. Head shaking occurs in the stall and even when just standing still anywhere and it is excessive. Since you mention this shaking occurs when riding the teeth are the most likely.

Thanks for responding so quickly, I just bought this horse about a month ago. She is 9. Is that too young for teeth problems? I am working with a trainer with her, she seems to think it is the mares excuse not to work, I don’t see that, I believe it is something genuinely bothering her.

Any age horse can have teeth problems as horses teeth are continually in a growth phase.
They should actually be checked twice a year at a minimum regardless of age. Abit in the mouth causes “strange” things sometimes too. The equine dentist can take a good look in the mouth regardless.

I still suspect teeth and or some issue in the mouth. shaking when riding is not uncommon regardless. with regards to training if the teeth ARE good, blinders may often help while training… also softening of the neck before riding… turning tight to the knees accomplishes this.

Worming Foals…

I have two large foals that are about 7 and 7 1/2 weeks old.

I have purchased your natural wormer for the mares and have been using it for years.  How should I worm the foals? Is the natural wormer ok for them does it include tape worms and how much would I give them.  I can measure them for their weight of course. Or should I be using something else or a combination of something else.

How often should I be worming them?

Thank you,

Janice

fecals fecal fecals… regardless of what you use. (monthly for foals) 1/2 tube for the foals. any amount is only healthy regardless.

Please do go to www.wormcheck.com and read the article I did for wellness magazine called “Oh Crap.

Find it at http://wormcheck.com/?p=3

It should answer even more questions that may arise.